Car sounds like a tractor :(

1. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

   #1 7th March 2013, 14:22

   A couple of weeks ago my car lost all power and started to sound like a tractor!
   
   I got told by a mate that it was crank sensor, today i changed my crank sensor and went to start my car up. It started but is still sounding like a tractor.
   
   I revved it a few times and it sounds very rough, it will idle at 600 and then just die.
   
   Anyone have any idea what it could be ?
2. Martijn_M Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2013 Eindhoven, NL Posts: 239 106 S2 Rallye

   #2 7th March 2013, 14:25

   TDC sensor. Mine did the same.
3. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

   #3 7th March 2013, 14:30

   Where the tdc sensor located ?
4. Martijn_M Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2013 Eindhoven, NL Posts: 239 106 S2 Rallye

   #4 7th March 2013, 14:39

   At the Flywheel
5. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

   #5 7th March 2013, 14:44

   Are they easy to replace ? (sorry for all the questions)
6. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #6 7th March 2013, 15:28

   thats the crank sensor you've changed already?
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 7th March 2013, 15:42

   Get a video
8. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #8 7th March 2013, 15:44

   Check the usual suspects.
   
   Coilpack first. Always a popular option.
   Condition of all spark plugs.
   Compression on all cylinders.
   Sensors (so TPS, crank etc).
   
   Report back.
9. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

   #9 7th March 2013, 15:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross Check the usual suspects. Coilpack first. Always a popular option. Condition of all spark plugs. Compression on all cylinders. Sensors (so TPS, crank etc). Report back.

   Changed all the sparks mate to no avail, when i took the coilpack off there was some oil on the end of it. I'm guessing it has seeped through from the head.
   
   Crank sensor got changed today but didn't really do anything.
10. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #10 7th March 2013, 15:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 Get a video

    Will do when i can get it jumped started as the battery has died now
11. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #11 7th March 2013, 15:52

    so you haven't changed the coilpack?
    
    What condition (colour) were the sparkplugs? One black, rest all brown etc?
12. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #12 7th March 2013, 15:59

    One of them was black at the bottom and the others looked ok but i just changed them all
    
    Haven't changed the coil pack yet as i went to gsf and they gave me the wrong one
13. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #13 7th March 2013, 16:03

    borrow one from a mate to test - no point swapping out a good one. If your mates works fine, yours is fucked.
14. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #14 7th March 2013, 16:05

    Ok cheers for the help mate, will only the gti ones fit or any 106 ?
15. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #15 7th March 2013, 16:09

    Only the gti ones I'm afraid (or a VTS)
16. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #16 7th March 2013, 16:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ross Only the gti ones I'm afraid (or a VTS)

    Ok thanks mate
17. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #17 8th March 2013, 18:41

    Fitted a new coil pack today but it didn't make a difference
18. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #18 8th March 2013, 18:46

    my vtr done it twice to me, im no expert but im thinking my camshafts bent or something?.
19. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

    #19 8th March 2013, 18:50

    Good chance if its sounding agricultural is the map sensor.
    But before swapping the sensor for a known good one. Unpick the tape off the wireing and check for breaks. Ive seen loads where the wire snaps. Its usually pretty tight where it comes off the main loom.
    Meter the wires if you can as sometimes itl be broken but the pvc covering isnt.
20. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #20 8th March 2013, 18:51

    ill check that aswell thanks.
21. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #21 8th March 2013, 19:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silk my vtr done it twice to me, im no expert but im thinking my camshafts bent or something?.

    I was thinking something along them lines
    
    Expensive to fix ?
22. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #22 8th March 2013, 20:32

    if your going to do it you might aswell do cambelt or buy new engine might be cheaper & easier.
23. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #23 8th March 2013, 21:04

    My engine is on 65k mate as it got rebuilt about 4 years ago. If it's really bad i will split it for parts
24. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #24 8th March 2013, 21:08

    hi, it being a saxo there probably 65 hard mile lol, well a camblet done near me is about 160 but you can get a (vtr?) lump cheaper than that ect.
25. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #25 8th March 2013, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silk hi, it being a saxo there probably 65 hard mile lol, well a camblet done near me is about 160 but you can get a (vtr?) lump cheaper than that ect.

    I know it's been on the track but since my ownership witch is about 5 months i hardly ever rag it. Get called a woman driver by many as i never race or take it past 5k.
26. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #26 8th March 2013, 21:15

    lol, ok mate, good luck with it hope it works out, ill help if i can.
27. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #27 8th March 2013, 21:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silk lol, ok mate, good luck with it hope it works out, ill help if i can.

    It doesn't sound very good and does sound like something is fucked in the engine. Cheers mate will keep you updated
28. Silk Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2013 kent Posts: 330 vtr mk2

    #28 8th March 2013, 21:43

    yes mate, im rebuilding new one for mine, let me know mate cheers.