Uprated Brakes?

1. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #1 23rd August 2006, 00:39

   Mate of mine keeps on going on saying hes going to uprate his vtr brakes, wants to know whats needed and what cars he can get them from?
   
   GTI 6
   206 GTI 180
   
   what else?
   
   and where can he get them from? no scrappys around here have any in
   
   rep for help
2. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #2 23rd August 2006, 07:15

   pug gti 6 (283mm)
   pug 180's (283mm)
   pug 206 gti (266mm)
   
   top two needing 15inch wheel
   your gonna need calipers, discs, not sure on mounts. williams can fill you in.
   should cost about 150-200 second hand if you see them.
   with the srappy you could use use a company on the net to find you a set. ( cant think of the name now)
   
   also theres a few threads about these brakes recently so have a butchers
3. c8james Established Member Joined: Jan 2006 pikie central Posts: 1790 Ram raiders roller, cosser init

   #3 23rd August 2006, 07:58

   Check out simo's new 330mm brakes they are truly mad. I liked them so much I bought a set. Need 16" wheels though.
4. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #4 23rd August 2006, 08:47

   4 pots are more expencive (500notes ish) but give superb stopping power. Well worth a look
5. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #5 23rd August 2006, 09:59

   dont really want to be spending that amount of cash at the moment on the brakes thats the only thing!
   
   anyone know if i need the mounts?
6. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #6 23rd August 2006, 10:32

   check the brake size guide i wrote mate.
7. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

   #7 23rd August 2006, 10:40

   need the callipers and carriers from 306gti but the callipers need grinding slightly but remember these are the only things to stop you! do not go mad with a grinder!! I belive you can take them from a citroen berlingo and 307's
8. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

   #8 23rd August 2006, 10:58

   Yatesy - you can get a decent setup off a 306 hdi, or 306 xsi , they are 266mm setup which will improve the braking significantly over standard, if his car is just atandard power and not pushing massive bhp then these will be a great upgrade, i have sum in my garage ready to fit that i got from my local scrappy, they cost me £15 each for the calipers, and they give me the disks, put em on my mates lathe tho and theyre like new now, but have a look for them two cars, also i think the 307's less than 1.6 have 266 mm setups on, which will all fit behind 14" rims if he has standards on
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 23rd August 2006, 11:04

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44730
   to save all these posts about what brakes to get.
10. VTRBoy Newbie Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 6

    #10 23rd August 2006, 11:05

    nice 1
11. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

    #11 23rd August 2006, 11:11

    yate5y mate, I can put you in touch with the lad with the 106gti from sunday he had 306gti brakes on, had no major problems and was fully finished for less than 300 quid.
12. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #12 23rd August 2006, 17:18

    dont want to spend that much right now Bill, wondering if i should just get some standard discs for now
    
    dont suppose anyone knows where i can get calipers, carriers, discs and pads from any of the said cars above?
    
    what exactly are carriers mate? i know what calipers discs and pads are just not sure on the rest...
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 23rd August 2006, 17:27

    £300?????? wtf???
    
    i paid £130 for gti 180 callipers and carriers with part worn discs and pads.
    then bought new pads for £45 and new discs for about £50.
    
    the carriers are part of the calliper they have the sliders on and also attatch the calliper to the hub.
14. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #14 23rd August 2006, 17:31

    dont suppose you know anywhere in the north east i could get a hold of them? tried localscrap yards
    with no luck
15. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #15 23rd August 2006, 17:36

    like i said previous theres sites that scan scrapyards all round the country. post on general chat, here and ssc and someone will know.
16. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #16 23rd August 2006, 17:37

    yes, VRS gateshead, they are a citroen/pug breakers
    0191 4691004
    
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 23rd August 2006, 17:41

    also try:
    Tam - 07711345160
    
    he supplies a lot on ssc with varies french parts.
18. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #18 23rd August 2006, 17:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit like i said previous theres sites that scan scrapyards all round the country. post on general chat, here and ssc and someone will know.

    yeah i know mate, but if they are in north east i could easily get them thats all and as williams knows his shit i was seein if he knew of any
    
    rep left for both of you!
19. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #19 23rd August 2006, 17:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts also try: Tam - 07711345160 he supplies a lot on ssc with varies french parts.

    yeah i knew about him mattwesty just gave me tams ssc username
20. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #20 24th August 2006, 12:21

    just rang VRS was on phone for bout 5 mins no answer boooo
21. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #21 24th August 2006, 13:11

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HI-SPEC-FOUR-P...QQcmdZViewItem
    
    Maybe wortha cheaky mail to the seller to see if he'll let them go cheap, no way is he getting 450
22. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

    #22 24th August 2006, 13:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts £300?????? wtf??? i paid £130 for gti 180 callipers and carriers with part worn discs and pads. then bought new pads for £45 and new discs for about £50. the carriers are part of the calliper they have the sliders on and also attatch the calliper to the hub.

    The callipers were sand blasted and painted and ground to fit.
23. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

    #23 24th August 2006, 13:22

    Have you tried the scrappy on longbeck industrial estate? Or theres 2 others in billingham near the haverton hill road.
24. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #24 24th August 2006, 13:25

    i paid about 300 for 4 pots!
25. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #25 24th August 2006, 14:18

    The callipers were sand blasted and painted and ground to fit
    
    gti 180 brakes wont need ground if you ca get them
26. dsh85 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2005 Teesside Posts: 8800 focus tdci, clio v6

    #26 24th August 2006, 14:47

    whats needed to fit the 406 brembo brakes?
27. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

    #27 24th August 2006, 15:13

    think u need spacers mate for the calipers and big rims
28. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #28 24th August 2006, 16:08

    i got thru to them later on, had a nice little talk with them
29. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #29 24th August 2006, 17:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts The callipers were sand blasted and painted and ground to fit gti 180 brakes wont need ground if you ca get them

    
    They will, Tim already did the ones on your car
30. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #30 24th August 2006, 19:23

    ??? you sure?
    
    they didnt look like they had been ground when i got them.
    
    boz didnt need to grind his either.
31. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #31 24th August 2006, 20:36

    try 247 spares for parts. My 266mm brakes work wonders!
32. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #32 24th August 2006, 20:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts ??? you sure? they didnt look like they had been ground when i got them. boz didnt need to grind his either.

    im sure boz told me today that he had to grind his lol
33. Billog_VTR Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Teesside Posts: 470 Saxo VTR mk1

    #33 24th August 2006, 21:26

    Yeh if you grind em and dont seal them in some sort of fashion they can oxidize quite quickly.
    
    They dont need grinding a great deal i think is just 2 sort of lines that arent flush on the calliper that need to go.
34. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #34 24th August 2006, 21:45

    if boz cant fit then does anyone else fancy fittin them for me?! id happily have ago with the haynes but all this grinder talk scares me lol
35. Rich84 Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Liverpool Posts: 1163 16v ax V6 vag

    #35 25th August 2006, 08:50

    ave got the 206 266mm set up. you wont belive the improvement over standard.
    
    u can feel the whole front end dip under braking
36. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #36 25th August 2006, 09:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rich84 ave got the 206 266mm set up. you wont belive the improvement over standard. u can feel the whole front end dip under braking

    glad ive got the gti6 set up then as its even bigger!
37. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #37 25th August 2006, 09:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yate5y glad ive got the gti6 set up then as its even bigger!

    Glad I have hi specs then :smug
38. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

    #38 25th August 2006, 09:43

    yatesy how much u payfor your gti6 setup?
39. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #39 25th August 2006, 10:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CampDavid Glad I have hi specs then :smug

    dont piss on my bbq
    
    least mine are in this country :smug: unless its back in this country andive missed that lol
    
    120 luke
40. SteVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 carlisle United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2934 106 GTi

    #40 25th August 2006, 10:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yate5y glad ive got the gti6 set up then as its even bigger!

    good choice mate i've got them on my car piss easy to fit aswell
41. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #41 25th August 2006, 10:36

    never looked at brakes so i dont have a clue! got any pics of where i need to grind? i only have 15's
42. SteVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 carlisle United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2934 106 GTi

    #42 25th August 2006, 10:47

    they'll go on with 15's
    
    nope aint got any pics of where you need to grind but sean has a link to a fitting guide for them he's put it up on here a few times so you could maybe search for it or pm him for the link
43. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #43 25th August 2006, 11:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yate5y dont piss on my bbq least mine are in this country :smug: unless its back in this country andive missed that lol 120 luke

    Well, my car is also in Germany. I am not.
    
    Good point
44. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #44 25th August 2006, 15:03

    haha!
    
    i know they will fit under 15"s as gti-6 has cyclones!!
    
    ive pm'd sean got nothin back yet, actually i didnt lol il do it now!
45. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #45 25th August 2006, 15:18

    cyclones are 16" aren' they?
46. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #46 25th August 2006, 15:26

    nope, 15" mate, 195/55/15 on the rubber for a 6 or the superior Rallye model
47. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #47 30th August 2006, 19:51

    what size discs you going for yate5y?? 266mm or 283mm? i've got chance to get gti-6 calipers, discs and pads, but unsure weather to go for 283 or 266 discs?
48. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #48 30th August 2006, 20:04

    go for the gti6 brakes.
49. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #49 30th August 2006, 20:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts go for the gti6 brakes.

    but what size discs, they list 266mm and optional 283mm ones??
    
    
    
    MDC990 are 266mm
    MDC814 are 283mm
    
    not very clear picture lol
50. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #50 30th August 2006, 20:18

    you only get gti6 in 283mm
    s16 is 266mm
51. Richardson_VTS Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Northallerton Posts: 1672 Mini Cooper S

    #51 30th August 2006, 20:33

    nice one cheers mate.