fuel pump relay

  1. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #1
    is the fuel pump relay the same on all vtr's?

    mine has a single pin ecu but i can borrow one from a 3 plug Ecu to try so i can see if that is the fault
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #2
    Same relay throughout the saxo range mate.
  3. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 224 106 Indepedence with 1.6 vtr , 106 1.0 96 Runabo
    #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    Same relay throughout the saxo range mate.
    No there's a Black one or a Brown one if you get the one wrong it wont plug in so get the same color as your original one
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  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #4
    As above, older have black, newer have brown

    And the don't fit, if you make them fit they still won't work
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #5
    I'm sure it changes with plugs as well.

    Brown for later models and black for older. or maybe that's the other way about

    Definitely 2 types
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #6
    Other way round
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Other way round
    What is?

    They see my edits, they hatin
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 224 106 Indepedence with 1.6 vtr , 106 1.0 96 Runabo
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    As above, older have black, newer have brown

    And the don't fit, if you make them fit they still won't work
    Correct been though this pile of S**T before lol
  9. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #9
    ok thanks for that, that confirms that its not the fuel pump relay that is causing mine to not start.

    roll on Tuesday when the new crank sensor arrives to try that
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #10
    Does the fuel pump prime?
  11. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #11
    no it doesn't and the diagnostic came back with an unknown fault
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #12
    run a battery to the pump to see if it works like that. which relay color do you have black or brown?
  13. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #13
    black and yes that did work
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #14
    ok cool bridge the fuel pump & ignition live wires behind the relay to rule the relay out.
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  15. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #15
    ok thanks i will try that if the crank sensor does not work. i tried relays from a 106 gti and also a quicksilver
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #16
    crank sensor has no effect on the fuel pump prime matey
  17. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #17
    i have to try it as i don't know what else to try and i am supposed to be racing it on Easter Monday!

    unfortunately now i have had so many different opinions i don't know who to listen to anymore either :-(

    thanks for your help, i appreciate all input
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire
    #18
    ok mate bridge the wires and pm me aftewards im forever fixing fuel pump problems it seems ha i think ive seen every possible problem with it
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MartinObviously View Post
    What is?
    The way you wrote it before you edited it
  20. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    The way you wrote it before you edited it
    But it would say in my post that I had edited it with a time stamp?

    I think you're seeing things.
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #21
    Nope, not if you're quick as you're fully aware
  22. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    Nope, not if you're quick as you're fully aware
    Dunno what you're on about mate
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #23
    Yeah, surrrre
  24. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom5190 View Post
    ok cool bridge the fuel pump & ignition live wires behind the relay to rule the relay out.
    which wires are those?
  25. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Guernsey, channel islands Posts: 132 2007 civic type r gt 1997 saxo vts (now dead) 2001
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tom5190 View Post
    ok cool bridge the fuel pump & ignition live wires behind the relay to rule the relay out.

    Hey I'm helping littlun with his saxo, can you tell us what colour wires we need to bridge?? Don't fancy getting the wrong ones
  26. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #26
    also, we found a broken wire from the coil pack to earth. it goes through a small black box. is this just an earth or is it possible the black box is some sort of resistor and would this cause the fuel pump to not prime?
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Littlun View Post
    also, we found a broken wire from the coil pack to earth. it goes through a small black box. is this just an earth or is it possible the black box is some sort of resistor and would this cause the fuel pump to not prime?
    That's a capacitor, reduces interference and can cause a misfire if it's not connected.

    wouldn't prevent the fuel pump from running no.
  28. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #28
    ok didn't think it would :-(
  29. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #29
    we have now fitted another fuel pump relay but still the fuel pump won't prime. any ideas as to what we should try next?
  30. L-plater Joined: Aug 2012 Guernsey, Channel Islands Posts: 36 99 Saxo VTR
    #30
    had a bit of a play with a multimeter this afternoon and found that when turning the car over there is power to the coil pack. we also found that there is fuel as far as the fuel rail yet still the car won't start. could the ecu be dead? the fuel pump will not prime unless its got a direct feed from the battery but even then the car doesn't start