reverse turbo setup?

1. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #1 27th March 2013, 17:01

   Getting close to having most parts for my budget setup but just head a though......
   
   The basic turbo setup is the turbo sucks in air and then pushes it through the I/c then up to the throttle bodie
   
   What about having the turbo sucking the air from the cooler the it can redirect the air straight to the inlet thus causing alto less lag?
   
   The air is still passing and cooling through the I/c but before the turbo?
   
   Just a thought. Please let me know what you guys think
2. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #2 27th March 2013, 17:26

   so what will you do about the really hot boost charge?
3. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #3 27th March 2013, 17:31

   The intercooler is after the turbo as the turbo heats the air up
   So of you put the turbo after the intercooler you might aswell not run one....
4. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #4 27th March 2013, 17:54

   As Alex said, the turbo is the factor that causes all the heat, so you might as well run no intercooler at all
   
   If you want boost without lag then go for a supercharger setup
5. user_34323 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3

   #5 27th March 2013, 18:12

   Think of it this way, using unrelated numbers
   10 degree air going into car, into turbo, coming out at 80 degree in car.
   10 degree air going into car, into intercooler, coming out at 10 degrees because its the same ambient temperature that the air is cooling. Coming out at 80 degrees into car.
   Or 10 degree air going into car, into turbo, passing intercooler, coming out at 20 degrees into inlet.
6. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #6 27th March 2013, 18:24

   Oh right I get you cool thanks guys was just woundering if it would work.
   what about adding a water mist injector instead of an intercooler?
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 27th March 2013, 18:52

   why dont you want an intercooler?
   
   water meth isnt going to be a viable option
   
   if you dont understand the basics of how a turbo works are you sure you want to be fitting one??
8. gazza808 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 591

   #8 27th March 2013, 18:55

   My mates drag car runs no intercooler and only water/meth injection.
   Hassle on the road having to top it up constantly I would assume.
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 28th March 2013, 06:01

   Correct
   Plus you can just use plain water which i think is what the op thought
   
   You need the meth in there making it expensive to do on a car used daily
10. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #10 28th March 2013, 09:39

    I guess you could try to build a custom housing for the turbo which has an oil or water jacket with a massive capacity to cool the turbo, but it would still need an intercooler. Modern turbo's have that anyway but i'm guessing its usually plumbed into the normal engine oil. Probably just extends the service life of the turbo
11. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

    #11 29th March 2013, 11:44

    Cool thanks guys
    
    I'm confident about building a turbo setup it was just a few thoughts