starting problems

1. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

   #1 21st April 2013, 13:45

   hi!
   
   I know this probably gets posted tons, but I have a 1.5 D 03 saxo, and has been running fine since I got it, but during the cold weather it has had trouble firing up in the mornings, or if its been sat still for a long period. to actually get it to start Im needing to pump the throttle a little, I thought it could be a problem with glow plugs, or relay but have replaced glow plugs, and checked the relay with a volt meter and works.
   
   I tried removing the air filter to see if that was an issue, but it still takes time to start.
   
   any ideas?
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 21st April 2013, 13:47

   Wait 1/2 a min after the glow plug light has gone out then try starting it.
3. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

   #3 21st April 2013, 14:20

   just been out in it now, tried the waiting for 1/2 min after the light goes out, but it still wont start without the help from a few presses on the throttle. but when it has started, theres no issue in starting it again unless its stood about for few hours?
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 21st April 2013, 14:21

   Try bleeding the fuel filter/replacing it mate.
5. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

   #5 21st April 2013, 23:11

   its fine when running, so could it be a blocked fuel filter? i know there a bugger to get at. Had a look at the good old haynes book, and noticed in the book, there is a cable just below the throttle cable, fast idle cable i think it was called, anyway, mine has never had one since i got the car, so got someone to put some tension on it while i started the car, and started pretty much first go with no need to mess about with the throttle.
   
   ive made a spacer to wedge in it for the moment, would you think actually buying the cable would help it?
6. Samuel Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 510 MK2 VTS

   #6 22nd April 2013, 00:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by penguinman hi! I know this probably gets posted tons, but I have a 1.5 D 03 saxo, and has been running fine since I got it, but during the cold weather it has had trouble firing up in the mornings, or if its been sat still for a long period. to actually get it to start Im needing to pump the throttle a little, I thought it could be a problem with glow plugs, or relay but have replaced glow plugs, and checked the relay with a volt meter and works. I tried removing the air filter to see if that was an issue, but it still takes time to start. any ideas?

   Battery or starter motor
7. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

   #7 20th May 2013, 14:09

   ok ive replaced fuel filter, still having the same sort of issue, but doesnt take as long to fire up, but still needs some encouragement from the throttle.
   
   any ides?
8. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #8 20th May 2013, 15:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by penguinman ok ive replaced fuel filter, still having the same sort of issue, but doesnt take as long to fire up, but still needs some encouragement from the throttle. any ides?

   Re-bleed it mate my old zx diesel used to do the same thing.
9. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

   #9 28th May 2013, 19:04

   Hey
   
   Tried re bleedimg it,still no joy still takes a while to start in the morning:!and is getting a bit annoying that I cant seem to get it back to normal
   
   Any other suggestions?
10. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #10 28th May 2013, 19:10

    Blocked injector/s try running some forte injector cleaner through it.
11. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

    #11 28th May 2013, 19:50

    Cool,il give that ago! How do I do it?
12. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

    #12 28th May 2013, 19:53

    Is that stuff the same as the redex fuel cleaner?if so iv already run it through a full tank
13. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #13 28th May 2013, 20:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by penguinman Is that stuff the same as the redex fuel cleaner?if so iv already run it through a full tank

    Its injector cleaner in that sense but much better than redex which is like gnats piss mate.
14. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

    #14 1st June 2013, 18:25

    yo! ok popped some of that stuff in, so we will see, guessing its not instant? in the meantime some one suggested it could be idle stablisation valve or warm up reglator ( would this be the same as the glow plug relay) any ideas?
15. penguinman L-plater Joined: Dec 2011 milton keynes Posts: 38 1.6D sax0 03

    #15 19th June 2013, 10:09

    *bump*