J4 to JP4 oil conversion query

1. craggy Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 27

   #1 2nd May 2013, 09:50

   Hi,
   
   I have just fitted a sandwich plate to my 2007 jp4 and have noticed that the threaded pipe part number 1103 54 i purchased is really quite short.
   
   when I screw it into the jp4 block i can only screw in a few threads if i want some available for my oil filter, becasue the threaded hole in the block is recessed quite a bit from the face of the block there are only a few threads available protruding out, its nowhere near finger tight in the block, the opposing force of the oil filter is what makes it solid
   
   so im thinking either:
   
   1.this is the norm, it seems to have a fairly solid grip, although i lost the first bit of thread on the sandwich plate fine tuning it
   2.the threaded bar i have is too short
   3.the hole in my block is recessed further than normal
   
   can anyone shed any light on this?
   
   thanks
2. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #2 2nd May 2013, 10:43

   yes
   
   screw threade sleeve adaptor into block as far as it will go ,then fit sandwhich plate with bolt to block and tighten
   then fit filter
3. craggy Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 27

   #3 2nd May 2013, 20:33

   
4. craggy Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 27

   #4 2nd May 2013, 20:40

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5. craggy Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 27

   #5 2nd May 2013, 20:42

   
6. craggy Newbie Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 27

   #6 2nd May 2013, 20:44

   Thanks,
   
   your theory is obviously correct but the part I have is wrong, the one I ordered is 1103 54, I have ordered 1103 A7 in to see if that is better, its about a cm longer and I hope its the same construction, it says its for the engine with the oil cooler
   
   ta
   neil
7. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #7 3rd May 2013, 13:53

   just had same problem today using a very late block and the threads are tapped much deeper as the std adaptor has a seat ,old style relies on the thread in the block not being very deep so it locks the threaded tube at correct height
   
   my solution is to screw the adaptor for the block onto the sandwich plate adptor(with enough sticking out for block) and add a spot of weld to it make sure it has enough thread sticking out to locate in the block deep enough to hold it ,but not go in so far that there is nothing left to attach to the other plate adaptor .
   no- the 1103 a7 will still not be long enough --thats the type i use .
   you could, i suppose use lcotite on the adpator into the block --if you get both parts clean enough --leave over night then fit the sandwich plate ,
   or even damage the thread a little on the adptor for block so it is a tight fit and does not go in as far.