killing driveshafts

1. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #1 1st July 2013, 23:55

   since going 16v and the front end on my car is sitting even lower, the drive shafts are at such an angle its munching threw them for fun!
   its completley ripped apart 4 driveshafts now in the past few months, thing is though ive only replaced them with 2nd hand ones so i dont know if its down to them or not!? , but i bought two new ones today and gonna fit them tomorrow hoping they will last abit longer
   
   the car never gets tough starts etc
   
   now, is there any way of combacting this problem?
   
   or only real solution is to go higher/raise the engine/gearbox up which will obviously have less of an angle on the shafts
2. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #2 1st July 2013, 23:59

   What gearbox are you using? And what shafts? (Ie, vts box and shafts etc)
3. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #3 2nd July 2013, 00:02

   You answerd your own question, the car is to low.
4. Liamjrhodes Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Pontefract Posts: 1095 Nissan 200sx s14a Citroen Saxo VTS Austin Mini C

   #4 2nd July 2013, 00:10

   Did you get the gearbox back on?
5. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #5 2nd July 2013, 07:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross What gearbox are you using? And what shafts? (Ie, vts box and shafts etc)

   Still the 1.4 box and shafts
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Cam You answerd your own question, the car is to low.

   Yeah but surley there are ways to combact the issue?
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes Did you get the gearbox back on?

   Yeah I did haha!
6. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #6 2nd July 2013, 08:01

   Car's clearly too low, put extra strain on a shaft and it's a matter of when will it break, not if. You've got a choice of raising it or face changing parts on a regular basis.
7. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

   #7 2nd July 2013, 09:10

   Then how do the air boys manage?
   
   LSO for example, he has two damn low cars and he doesn't complain about chewing through shafts (no pun intended) but then maybe he just doesn't air his problem.
   
   I would ask LSO what he does tbh.
8. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #8 2nd July 2013, 09:27

   I am gonna send him an inbox, but I mean when. I had the 1.4 lump in I had no issues with them, only since going 16v, and it must only sit an extra few mm down on front with the extra weight of it
   
   But as said above I know other people have cars just as low or even lower and they manage
9. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #9 2nd July 2013, 13:31

   What quality shafts are you using that maybe a factor mate?
10. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #10 2nd July 2013, 22:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 What quality shafts are you using that maybe a factor mate?

    All the others were second hand ones, ive literally just tonight putt two brandnew drivetech ( I think can't remember haha! ) shafts on it!
11. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #11 2nd July 2013, 22:26

    i hear you drive like a bellend Ali. xoxox
12. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #12 2nd July 2013, 22:30

    Ali ill drop you a text of a drive and prop shaft company in wakie that can make extreme angle prop shafts for the likes of land rovers and the likes they made me some for my slammed civic so will help you out or point you in the right direction.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ali123 All the others were second hand ones, ice literally just tonight putt two brandnew drcetech ( I think can't remember haha! ) shafts on it!

    From Andrew pages?
13. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #13 2nd July 2013, 23:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle i hear you drive like a bellend Ali. xoxox

    in a car as low as this with roads like that here in england?!
    no chance haha! obvisouly do have some fun in it, but never once have i launched it hard off the line
    <33
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 Ali ill drop you a text of a drive and prop shaft company in wakie that can make extreme angle prop shafts for the likes of land rovers and the likes they made me some for my slammed civic so will help you out or point you in the right direction. From Andrew pages?

    yeah man text me
    deffo would be interested, saves the hassle of munching through them!
    and yeah mate. i know they aint the best like but thought id actually treat it to brand new ones rather than 2nd hand ones, might last longer!
14. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #14 2nd July 2013, 23:10

    PMSL. It's just reading random posts off FB.
15. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #15 2nd July 2013, 23:14

    haha
    course you gotta have some fun in it, no one on here can say they havnt given it some at times but i mean i dont drive it in a way that kills gearboxes/shafts etc
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 2nd July 2013, 23:15

    Ofcourse lol.
    
    I'm no angel tbh..
17. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #17 2nd July 2013, 23:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Ofcourse lol. I'm no angel tbh..

    haha well there ya go
    i did embarrass some old merc though on the motorway the other day doe that was fun!
18. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #18 2nd July 2013, 23:18

    Depends on car and road if a challenge is there.
    
    A Evo pulled up behind me (evil looking in black coming up behind ) i just dropped the Saxo's kegs and let the Evo do its dirty work i'll not try out with those motors as its inevitable i'll get raped.
19. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #19 2nd July 2013, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Depends on car and road if a challenge is there. A Evo pulled up behind me (evil looking in black coming up behind ) i just dropped the Saxo's kegs and let the Evo do its dirty work i'll not try out with those motors as its inevitable i'll get raped.

    exactly
    and haha i know what you mean, no point in even tryiung what so ever/ embarrassing your self, so i usually just nod as they boot it past as acknowledgement that your car will arse rape mine so ... yeah!

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20. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #20 2nd July 2013, 23:26

    I havent really had any problems with driveshafts. The only problem i get are the inner cv boots which constantly rip. The current inner cv rubbers on the static saxo are universal ones which are longer so dont stretch as much. They lasted longer but have ripped eventually, as when you get at too much of an angle with the driveshafts they start to rub on the gearbox itself lol
    
    Ive given up replacing inner cv boots and its been fine for a while now.
21. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #21 2nd July 2013, 23:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak I havent really had any problems with driveshafts. The only problem i get are the inner cv boots which constantly rip. The current inner cv rubbers on the static saxo are universal ones which are longer so dont stretch as much. They lasted longer but have ripped eventually, as when you get at too much of an angle with the driveshafts they start to rub on the gearbox itself lol Ive given up replacing inner cv boots and its been fine for a while now.

    ah right i see! fair enough
    im gonna put it down then to shitty old drive shafts! shall see how long these last though!
    but now as the inside of my tyres have worn down quite alot the shafts have started rubbing on the chassis haha but new tyres are being put on tomorrow
    
    need deeper pockets!
22. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #22 2nd July 2013, 23:34

    man through it lol
    whatever you do, dont give in and raise it!
23. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

    #23 2nd July 2013, 23:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak man through it lol whatever you do, dont give in and raise it!

    i shall do haha, and hell nah i aint, its too epic at this lowness with those wheels !
24. westwell_22 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Alnwick/Northumberland Posts: 258 Cobalt Blue 106

    #24 3rd July 2013, 00:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ali123 the shafts have started rubbing on the chassis

    Not gonna notch the chassis for extra clearance?
25. monka Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368

    #25 3rd July 2013, 07:34

    you are using the right shafts for the right bearings? tapered/non tapered?