Radiator problems!!!

1. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

   #1 13th July 2013, 13:02

   Every time i check my radiator level its empty! and my temp needle is always about 3/4! anyone had anything like this or know what it could be!? doing my nut in and im not good with cars lol
2. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #2 13th July 2013, 13:07

   Find the leak to begin with. You'll find cristals where the coolant leaks, blue or red depending what you put in there.
   
   If you can't find, just place some newspapers under the engine, start it and you'll see where it is. Probably a dead radiator but you never know until you do.
   
   The temp gauge will sit higher because of a combination of less cooling (obviously) + bubbles in the system.

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3. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

   #3 13th July 2013, 13:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Manu Find the leak to begin with. You'll find cristals where the coolant leaks, blue or red depending what you put in there. If you can't find, just place some newspapers under the engine, start it and you'll see where it is. Probably a dead radiator but you never know until you do. The temp gauge will sit higher because of a combination of less cooling (obviously) + bubbles in the system.

   thanks dude gunna have a look!
4. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

   #4 13th July 2013, 14:03

   Shove some radweld in it.
   
   then fill it back up.
   
   go from there, if it's a small leak it'll permanently be fixed.
   
   
   
   bleed the system properly.
5. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #5 13th July 2013, 15:04

   Don't let it go on or you risk popping your head gasket. Small fix now or a big fix later.
6. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

   #6 13th July 2013, 17:11

   Think my head gasket on way out got like oily shit in raditor!! Arggghhhhh
7. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #7 13th July 2013, 17:24

   Oh dear sounds like the headgasket then
8. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

   #8 13th July 2013, 18:51

   anyone know how much a headgasket goes for?
9. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #9 13th July 2013, 19:22

   Headgasket seal is about 16-20 quid at worst, not much to worry about, then again easy to to change. Only don't overcrank the screws back in + needs bedding time when you drive it, about 200 miles.
10. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

    #10 13th July 2013, 19:28

    someone told me head gaskets like 400 quid! haha
11. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #11 13th July 2013, 19:37

    Well don't fall for that one. 400 quid for a 20 quid gasket seal, dear me.
    
    
    

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12. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 13th July 2013, 20:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu Well don't fall for that one. 400 quid for a 20 quid gasket seal, dear me.

    haha yeah i thought that
13. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #13 13th July 2013, 21:23

    must be charging hell of a Labour for £400 and a gasket and some head bolts lol.
    
    Only take a garage about 3 hours. I'm quite sure it could be done faster though.
14. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

    #14 13th July 2013, 21:32

    Usually about 3-4 labour, plus gasket fluids and getting the head skimmed. Just depends on how much the charge for labour.
15. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #15 14th July 2013, 03:33

    Headgasket on a 1.1 is a hour & a half job if the yot everything you need and head skimmed!
16. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

    #16 14th July 2013, 12:23

    its a 1.4 but got a mate looking at it Monday he said about 60 quid to do it all n drain radiator through etc.
17. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

    #17 14th July 2013, 12:34

    Not good fella,I had this on my punto a few years back and just sold it as spares
18. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

    #18 14th July 2013, 12:38

    I will not lose faith!!
19. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

    #19 14th July 2013, 12:49

    Are you getting hot air out of the blowers at all or does it blow cold at all times even when the temp gauge is high?
20. wullvfr Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 killin,perthshire Posts: 1561 Audi a3 1.8sport,kawasaki zx9r c2,Yamaha R1 track

    #20 14th July 2013, 12:50

    Also check the dipstick to see if there is any signs of emulsification.
    
    If you've been making short journeys that can sometimes cause some emulsification under the oil cap because of condensation.....
    
    But it does sound like HG failure.
21. ellwalsh L-plater Joined: Dec 2010 manchester Posts: 49 Saxo 1.4 furio

    #21 14th July 2013, 12:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wullvfr Are you getting hot air out of the blowers at all or does it blow cold at all times even when the temp gauge is high?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wullvfr Also check the dipstick to see if there is any signs of emulsification. If you've been making short journeys that can sometimes cause some emulsification under the oil cap because of condensation..... But it does sound like HG failure.

    It is really hot constant fan runs for about 30 seconds after I turn car off!
    
    oil cap and dipstick looks fine! but radiator always empty! doing my nut in!
22. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #22 14th July 2013, 14:48

    find the leak, replace broken part.
23. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #23 14th July 2013, 14:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu find the leak, replace broken part.

    I didn't replace the block in my 1.5D
24. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #24 14th July 2013, 14:50

    Pretty sure you'll have to replace the whole car at some point.