newbie with an issue

1. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #1 18th August 2013, 22:40

   Hi guys and girls,
   
   Got a 2003 VTR and when I go to start it, she fires straight up then stalls and after 5 mins or trying to get it to start she will start and drive fine, any ideas/help please?
   
   Cheers Rusty
2. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #2 18th August 2013, 22:59

   Could clean you idle control valve.
   
   Any pics of your civic?
3. user_24390 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 North Wales Posts: 5576 Fabia VRS PD130/ VTR Mk2

   #3 19th August 2013, 02:24

   Does she sound like shes getting enough fuel? Blocked filter?
4. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #4 19th August 2013, 05:53

   Once started she is fine which is why I didnt think it would be a filter as for pics of the civic ill get some up later (I race it at long marston - shakespeare county raceway)
5. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #5 19th August 2013, 18:37

   Its almost like there is an immobiliser kicking in
6. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #6 19th August 2013, 19:03

   You could disconnect the immobiliser and give it a crack to rule it out.

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7. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #7 19th August 2013, 19:28

   Where do I find that? I'm totally lost when it comes to this car lol
8. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #8 20th August 2013, 19:17

   Where do I find the immobiliser on the car a is it to do with the chip in a key?
9. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #9 20th August 2013, 21:20

   Yeah it is, the immobiliser is behind the the glove box. Disconect it when the engines running.
   
   If you search the forum there's a thread or two on removing it.

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10. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #10 20th August 2013, 23:17

    Cheers mick
11. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #11 21st August 2013, 07:57

    Found it, removed it with the engine running and its still not playing ball.
    
    I didn't think fuel pump or filter as once its started she is fine.
12. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #12 23rd August 2013, 07:12

    It appears to be the fuel pump :/ as its not spraying fuel out, had it put on a fault reader last night and nothing came up so we pulled the fuel line off at the rail and nothing came out even when it primed up hardly anything came out
13. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #13 23rd August 2013, 23:13

    New fuel pump fitted I'm £150 lighter but the car is running and I'm a bit happier now
14. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #14 23rd August 2013, 23:15

    Expensive new pumps. I caught a bank holiday price off ecp for £100.
    
    Cant trust used.
15. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #15 24th August 2013, 00:12

    Supplied and fitted for £145 which I didnt think was too bad
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 24th August 2013, 00:18

    Its not too hard to fit. The 2 pipes and clips are fiddly though.
    
    Hope it was £145 for a brand new pump fitted and not used. Its only under the back seat under a circle cover.
17. user_65258 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Sheffield Posts: 113 I own a micra turbo and merc

    #17 24th August 2013, 00:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M_Rust Supplied and fitted for £145 which I didnt think was too bad

    I think that was used one, u can buy walbro pump for cheaper and fitted, I can sell u pump and fit it my self for 80 pounds
18. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #18 24th August 2013, 00:28

    Its brand new and with a warranty all fitted and working
19. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #19 24th August 2013, 00:29

    Phew lol. Hoping you didnt get ripped. Decent.
20. M_Rust Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2013 West Midlands Posts: 241 1979 Honda Civic 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #20 24th August 2013, 00:32

    My mate works in a pug dealership so did it after hours for me just got the rear beam left to do and odd tidying up jobs