vtr power heeellllpppp

1. ghep L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77

   #1 31st August 2006, 00:58

   i was just wondering if anywone knew of modifications i can do to my vtr to get decent power out of it with spending tooo much, im thinking of getting a uprated head cams and it chipped, it allready has pipercross air filter and a exhuast systerm. ??
2. Mushy Newbie Joined: Aug 2006 Stoke Posts: 12 Saxo vts

   #2 31st August 2006, 01:06

   Cheapest way of makin a vtr fast is sell it and buy a vts lol
3. Ry_B Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Solihull Posts: 798 RX8 231

   #3 31st August 2006, 01:26

   1.1 gearbox
4. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

   #4 31st August 2006, 01:41

   Mushy people who have a vtr have them for a reason that reason being they carn't afford the insurance on a vts seeing as they are double the insurance group as a vtr!! vtr group (7) vts (14) thats why he wants to mod what he's got!!
5. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

   #5 31st August 2006, 02:24

   cams
   superchip/remap
   manifold
   
   expensive mods but alot of power can be gained from them..
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 31st August 2006, 07:59

   well as your modding your car the insurance will go up so might work out cheeper to buy a vts
   
   if not
   
   lose the pipercross filter and get an enclosed filter bmc or green
   magnex or piper exhaust
   de cat
   4-1 manifold
   then its cam and headwork
   re map
   then turbo/supercharger/throttle bodies
7. saxi_boi L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 Hull Posts: 59 Citroen Saxo Vtr

   #7 31st August 2006, 08:11

   1. induction kit
   2. magnex exhaust system
   3. 4-2-1 manifold
   4. lightened crank
   5. piper cams
   6. superchip and tune on rolling road
   7. ultimately a new gearbox
   8. gas flowed
   9. supercharged
   10. last but not least u can always drop a vts head on and change all ya ecu setting and pretty all the inlet outlet manifolds
   
   
   
   that's wot i intend to do to mine anyways hope this helps!
   
   Tony
8. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #8 31st August 2006, 08:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxi_boi 6. superchip and tune on rolling road Tony

   dont even think about it
9. Mushy Newbie Joined: Aug 2006 Stoke Posts: 12 Saxo vts

   #9 31st August 2006, 11:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by kateandjohn Mushy people who have a vtr have them for a reason that reason being they carn't afford the insurance on a vts seeing as they are double the insurance group as a vtr!! vtr group (7) vts (14) thats why he wants to mod what he's got!!

   yeh but what your gonna spend "modding" your little vtrs you cudda saved and put towards your insurance n i found the vts was only couple of hundred quid more so
10. scook Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Newbury United Kingdom (England) Posts: 741 Saxo VTS (Mrk 2)

    #10 31st August 2006, 11:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxi_boi 1. induction kit 2. magnex exhaust system 3. 4-2-1 manifold 4. lightened crank 5. piper cams 6. superchip and tune on rolling road 7. ultimately a new gearbox 8. gas flowed 9. supercharged 10. last but not least u can always drop a vts head on and change all ya ecu setting and pretty all the inlet outlet manifolds that's wot i intend to do to mine anyways hope this helps! Tony

    that will cost a fortune would be cheaper to buy a VTS
11. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #11 31st August 2006, 12:03

    Cheapest way to make a VTR faster - Strip it
    
    If ur after serious power - VTS and then begin ur list of mods
12. saxi_boi L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 Hull Posts: 59 Citroen Saxo Vtr

    #12 31st August 2006, 13:01

    the insurance on a vts compared to my vtr was £2000 so i opted for the cheaper option. the mods with out declarin mount to a bit less
13. l1ukeRS Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2005 Telford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3962 Focus RS Saxo Vtr

    #13 31st August 2006, 13:03

    vts conversion? or cams, remap headwork, manifold and strip the guts out of it,
14. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #14 31st August 2006, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mushy yeh but what your gonna spend "modding" your little vtrs you cudda saved and put towards your insurance n i found the vts was only couple of hundred quid more so

    Mushy i think you need to read what ghep is asking PROPERLY!!!
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ghep i was just wondering if anywone knew of modifications i can do to my vtr to get decent power out of it without spending tooo much, im thinking of getting a uprated head cams and it chipped, it allready has pipercross air filter and a exhuast systerm. ??

    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kateandjohn Mushy people who have a vtr have them for a reason that reason being they carn't afford the insurance on a vts.... thats why he wants to mod what he's got!!

    VERY WELL SAID!!!!
15. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

    #15 31st August 2006, 18:25

    Cheers s34mer some people just don't understand that, and if he is only young (i.e just passed test) then the insurance would cripple him on a vts. How do you get rep mate.
16. ghep L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 77

    #16 4th September 2006, 15:42

    haya guys thats for that, but yea im only 17 so insurence on a vts wud be soo much money for me thats why i just wanted to do up my vtr,
17. Easty Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 2608 Revo Stage 1 Leon FR

    #17 4th September 2006, 16:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxi_boi the insurance on a vts compared to my vtr was £2000 so i opted for the cheaper option. the mods with out declarin mount to a bit less

    if you dont declare your mods i hope you write your car off by hitting a big tree.
18. user_11402 Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Bristol Posts: 2015 MK2 VTS

    #18 4th September 2006, 16:34

    how does a 1.1 gear box make a vtr quiker? and wot is a 4-2-1 manifold all about?
19. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #19 4th September 2006, 16:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxi_boi 1. induction kit 2. magnex exhaust system 3. 4-2-1 manifold 4. lightened crank 5. piper cams 6. superchip and tune on rolling road 7. ultimately a new gearbox 8. gas flowed 9. supercharged 10. last but not least u can always drop a vts head on and change all ya ecu setting and pretty all the inlet outlet manifolds that's wot i intend to do to mine anyways hope this helps! Tony

    vts engine is cheaper, and most of what you've said is bollocks anyway. and not declaring modifications to your insurance company is for braindead morons. if you cant afford the insurance then dont drive it, full stop.
20. Dannyt Newbie Joined: Sep 2006 Bournemouth Posts: 21 2001 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #20 8th September 2006, 10:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ricksimmonds how does a 1.1 gear box make a vtr quiker? and wot is a 4-2-1 manifold all about?

    
    1.1 changes the gearing because its used for a lower power engine. so a 1.6 would rinse it though the gears, but have a top speed of about 80mph. gearbox wouldn't last too long with extra power though.
    
    421 manifold is refering to the link between engine and exhaust. one pipe from each cylinder (4 all together) becomes 2 pipes, and then they join into one to connect to your exhaust. you can get 4-1 manifolds, which i think are better, not sure tbh.
21. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #21 8th September 2006, 10:39

    the gearbox are made of the same material. in some cases the boxes are actually the same box used between models and just the final drive altered to suit.
22. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #22 8th September 2006, 10:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer the gearbox are made of the same material. in some cases the boxes are actually the same box used between models and just the final drive altered to suit.

    and they all fall appart