Coilover conversion

1. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

   #1 5th December 2013, 16:36

   Just got me some starmags and trying to get hold of gaz shock inserts to convert to coilies would this be capable of going low like 80mm low? The seller seems to think they will just wanted some other opinions?
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190948074577?redirect=mobile
2. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #2 5th December 2013, 16:55

   no they're most likely the standard 6.5inch 300lb gaz springs. They go fairly low, like 70-75mm. Have a look at ali123's silver 106. hes on starmags and that suspension.
   
   My old mk1 was on them coilovers too until i went lower with shorter springs, it was on 15's so not sure how much help that is..
3. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

   #3 5th December 2013, 16:57

   Thats good help mate, was gonna pm you after you posted on my thread. And saw you cut your bump stops to go lower is that a good thing to do? Aha cheers
4. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #4 5th December 2013, 17:01

   yeah otherwise the suspension will just bottom out all the time and will be really stiff. The standard ones are really big.
5. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

   #5 5th December 2013, 17:29

   Nice might need to do that
   Is this the 106 he uses that setup with? Because if it will sit like that I think that'll do..
6. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #6 5th December 2013, 17:32

   yeah thats the one
   
   yeah thats the way i'd do it. Start off at that height, see how you get on, might sit low enough/be low enough to be practical for you.
   If you want to go lower in the future then you just have to give faulkner a ring and get some custom springs
7. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

   #7 5th December 2013, 17:41

   I think I will, cheers for your help mate! How much does it cost to get custom springs made up? And will I need to change my top mounts when getting this conversion kit or will standard ones be fine?
8. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #8 5th December 2013, 19:21

   custom springs cost about £130 from faulkner to any spec you want. I used 250lb. Gaz supply 5inch springs for cheaper but are 350lb which are far too stiff for the road in my opinion.
   
   And standard top mounts will do fine
9. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

   #9 5th December 2013, 19:33

   Thats not bad was expecting like 300, can faulkner make a spring rate to match the torsion bars as well?
10. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #10 5th December 2013, 19:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by charles_vtr Thats not bad was expecting like 300, can faulkner make a spring rate to match the torsion bars as well?

    Theres no springs on the back so wouldnt not matter
11. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

    #11 5th December 2013, 19:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Theres no springs on the back so wouldnt not matter

    Yeah I know but ive heard about faulkner making springs to match the 19mm torsion bars spring rate if that makes sense? Im just going by what ive read
12. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #12 5th December 2013, 20:14

    yeah they could, im sure i read in the track section how stiff the front should be in relation to the back...
    
    you dont want short coilover springs too soft though as itll go coilbound and you dont want it too hard or the car will bounce of the ground lol
    
    Although i dont see why you'd care about it matching the rear anyway, handling should be the last thing on your mind with a slammed car lol
13. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

    #13 5th December 2013, 20:23

    Nah youre right ill be taking it slow just incase of any hidden bumps and holes, never know with these shitty roads!
14. charles_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Harlow, Essex Posts: 310 Sally the Saxo (VTR)

    #14 5th December 2013, 20:35

    Ill probably do what you said earlier LSO about starting off with these and then see what theyre like