Important! : Saxo vts flashing key doesn't start

1. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #1 23rd January 2014, 18:01

   Hi everybody today I was working in my saxo and I was fitting engine mounts quikshift and gear lincages. After I finished i was stuck with the problem of not starting and the key flashing.
   
   What's the problem and how to fix it? I really need to get it run by tommorow.
   
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2. Assenracing Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Wirral Posts: 185 E46 330d - Saxo Vts

   #2 23rd January 2014, 18:48

   Mine did it but I removed the black imobilizer box unlocking the ecu
3. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #3 23rd January 2014, 18:50

   Were is the black box of the imobilizer?
   
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4. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #4 23rd January 2014, 18:55

   Engines got to be running for that to work though. Check for loose connections in the wiring or loom first off, if it worked before it should again
   
   
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5. Assenracing Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Wirral Posts: 185 E46 330d - Saxo Vts

   #5 23rd January 2014, 18:57

   Mine was behind the fuse box inside the car up in the top corner, it's about the same size a fag packet
6. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #6 23rd January 2014, 18:58

   Yes it worked but now it doesn't and I don't know the problem. I had it one time but it started after a minute.
   
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7. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #7 23rd January 2014, 18:59

   BTW if I disconnect the box when I have the ignition on maybe then its going to be OK?
   
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8. Assenracing Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Wirral Posts: 185 E46 330d - Saxo Vts

   #8 23rd January 2014, 19:16

   I thought the ignition just had to be on to remove the imobilizer and the engine did not have to be running ?
9. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

   #9 23rd January 2014, 19:33

   I think it should be OK but maybe somebody can explain otherwise. BTW can a Citroen dealer make my car to run?
   
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10. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #10 23rd January 2014, 20:38

    Somebody maybe can help I will do this in few hours
    
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11. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #11 24th January 2014, 10:31

    Please guys help me. i need the car for today i have about 5h to fix it.
12. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

    #12 24th January 2014, 10:55

    Some times it can be the pick up ring near the steering lock give that a tap it may work
13. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #13 24th January 2014, 11:04

    i will try and if it does work i will disable immobilizer by disconnecting the black box if not i will try to disconnect when the car will be in the ignition.
14. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #14 24th January 2014, 11:05

    btw i dont know if it means something but i noticed that the red light in the top of the coolant temp gauge is on.
15. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #15 29th January 2014, 15:49

    Bump... The car still don't start tried everything Friday I go to the dealer and try to fix it there. Can somebody tell me can they unlock the ecu because I think I mess it up and locked it. Because my fuel gauge is going from zero to full multiple times and the screen that show the milage is blinking too.
    
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16. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #16 30th January 2014, 16:27

    Bump.
    
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17. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #17 30th January 2014, 16:49

    When you turn the key the dash lights light up including the red light for the temperature gauge mate.
18. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #18 30th January 2014, 16:52

    You clearly disturbed a earth doing the gear linkages, check the gearbox 2 earths & the one that runs up to the chassis.
    
    People saying you locked the ecu are clueless.
19. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #19 30th January 2014, 17:30

    OK thanks cam I will check. And can it show the IMO light and the red light up in the temp gauge?
    
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20. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #20 30th January 2014, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Laurynas OK thanks cam I will check. And can it show the IMO light and the red light up in the temp gauge? Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

    The red light for the temp gauge has nothing to do with the flashing key symbol.
21. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #21 30th January 2014, 18:16

    Yea but when the car broke it was flashing key simbol and the red light on ignition.
    
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22. ConnorTait Newbie Joined: Jan 2014 Scottish borders Posts: 6 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio in yellow/orange Pug 106

    #22 30th January 2014, 20:01

    Did you get the problem fixed? i have the exact same problem after i changed the head gasket
23. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #23 30th January 2014, 20:10

    Still not I will go tomorrow to Citroen and Check the ecu. I will write after that.
    
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24. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #24 30th January 2014, 23:14

    Your going to get ripped off because its not the ecu
25. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #25 30th January 2014, 23:20

    So what to do?
    
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26. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #26 30th January 2014, 23:23

    Because now when I put the ignition the fuel gauge goes back and forth and the screen on the dash when it shows the oil blinks.
    
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27. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #27 30th January 2014, 23:28

    All the signs of a bad earth or dodgey connector.
28. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #28 1st February 2014, 02:33

    Listen to Cam, check all you earth connections.
29. Laurynas Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2013 Iceland Posts: 277 Citroën Saxo VTS (build in progress.)

    #29 1st February 2014, 10:43

    I did it and they were fine. When i whent for diagnostics the guy sayd that some wires in the loom was dammaged and when he fix those wires the car started like normal. btw now i have a problem my fuel gauge and my oil temp gauge is showing nothing. and on ignition the fuel gauge goes empty to full few times.
    
    Mayme it could be a fuse but were to find the right one because i have no manual.