Exhaust problems?

1. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #1 27th February 2014, 07:35

   Morning
   
   
   Just drove to work this morning and my exhaust is making a racket...
   
   
   I have a supersprint straight through exhaust and normally its a bit raspy, but this morning its even more so. Opened the bonnet, no extra noise coming from there. LOADS of extra noise coming from the back end.
   
   When i accelerate, its to the point of the back window vibrating.
   
   Im thinking broken gasket or a hole in the exhaust?
   
   Thoughts?
   
   thanks
2. aldred309uk Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2014 Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 596 2002 Citroen Saxo desire 2001 Volvo V40 1.9D

   #2 27th February 2014, 07:49

   Put your hand over the tail pipe and it will make it easier to find if there is leak. It will blow loudly because you're forcing the gases out of the leak instead of the tail pipe!
3. saxo-paddy Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2013 wakefield Posts: 246 saxo forte 2000

   #3 27th February 2014, 10:57

   yeah get a mate to put hand over exhaust while your underneath to find where exhaust fumes are coming out....
4. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #4 27th February 2014, 17:14

   Found the problem. Centre section has literally snapped in two on the way home... Awful. Pipe from the backbox towards the front. What do I need to replace to fix it?
5. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #5 2nd March 2014, 12:17

   Anyone have any advice or web links to what I need?
   
   The pipe from the back box to the middle of the car has snapped. What do I need?
6. user_38092 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Leicester Posts: 257 Mango Westcoast

   #6 2nd March 2014, 12:20

   If its snapped clean through it would be easier just to replace it, if you fix it no doubt it will snap again (As I found out)
7. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #7 2nd March 2014, 12:23

   Either fit a new pipe,or depending on where it`s snapped get it welded.
8. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

   #8 2nd March 2014, 14:30

   Yeah I want to replace it but no idea what I'm looking for?
9. user_38092 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Leicester Posts: 257 Mango Westcoast

   #9 2nd March 2014, 14:36

   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tunin...ust-pipes.html
   
   Have a look at these, depends on how much you want to spend really
10. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #10 2nd March 2014, 15:09

    Yeah that's far too much for what I'm looking to spend. And they look different to mine? My exhaust is in three pieces. Pipe with silencer from cat to middle, pipe from middle to back box (snapped) then obviously the back box.
    
    I'm not sure on the make of my exhaust, I'm sure it's a supersprint...
11. user_38092 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Leicester Posts: 257 Mango Westcoast

    #11 2nd March 2014, 16:01

    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tunin...vts-01-04.html
    
    Thats the supersprint one with a silencer, there are loads of others about that are similar though so it could be any really. The brand will dictate the price you pay.
    
    (It doesn't matter if there is no spit in the centre, unless you want it in two parts of course)
12. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #12 2nd March 2014, 17:27

    I have a straight through supersprint centre section here for sale?
    
    Not that far from you either
    
    I also have a cheaper straight through centre I believe is a piper for sale
13. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #13 2nd March 2014, 19:11

    The problems getting to you mate, don't have anyway to...
    
    You got pics and prices?
14. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #14 2nd March 2014, 19:50

    I can courier?
    
    Possible piper is £35, supersprint is £55.
    
    Think courier will be extra £15.
    
    No pics of the supersprint but it's the same as the other centre which is below
    
    
15. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #15 2nd March 2014, 20:16

    It's the longer pipe I need mate. Not the decay pipe. Is that what you mean or are you talking about the decat pipe?
16. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #16 2nd March 2014, 20:27

    There both just straight through centre pipes
17. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #17 2nd March 2014, 21:06

    So both the same as that bottom pipe?
    
    What's the diameter on them?
18. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #18 2nd March 2014, 21:07

    They slot together and go from manifold to back box. Straight through.
    
    Both 2 1/4" I believe
19. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #19 2nd March 2014, 21:11

    imagine you'll need the catback section. full pipe will decat (obv). Mines been on a year, i'll give it all this year before it cracks. I'd go stainless next.
    
    
20. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #20 3rd March 2014, 06:54

    I've got a 4-1 mani then another pipe that attaches to that. That pipes fine.
    
    The pipe from the middle of the car to the backbox is the one that's snapped.
    
    Are you saying it's £55 for both pipes from mani to back box?
    
    What's that in mm?
21. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #21 3rd March 2014, 08:52

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Sa...item3f316cbdb1
    
    Thats what im after
22. 22bud2 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2013 Yorkshire Posts: 167 Mk2 Saxo

    #22 3rd March 2014, 09:36

    EBay item number:280263537537
    It goes from manifold straight to back box and it will out last car.
23. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #23 3rd March 2014, 10:00

    Not sure that will fit as it says 1.4 + VTR
24. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #24 3rd March 2014, 10:05

    Sportex centre pipes are small bore so will restrict power.
    
    The new Supersprint pipes are all stainless steel now.
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tunin...ntre-pipe.html
25. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #25 3rd March 2014, 10:07

    Small bore? that ones 50mm diameter.
    
    thats what i have.
    
    Thats far too much for me to be paying, especially since i only need the longer backbox pipe
    
    I just need it fixed ASAP tbh.
26. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #26 3rd March 2014, 10:19

    Is that not what I am selling?
27. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #27 3rd March 2014, 10:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gashman Is that not what I am selling?

    Im confused?!?
    
    What do you mean?
28. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #28 3rd March 2014, 11:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hazmanscoop http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Sa...item3f316cbdb1 Thats what im after

    I posted the same pipe a page back lol... catback
29. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #29 3rd March 2014, 11:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle I posted the same pipe a page back lol... catback

    Yeah i know you did, but im sure gash is selling both that pipe AND the decat pipe...
    
    Am i correct? and i needed to know the diameter in mm as my exhaust is 50mm i believe.
30. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #30 3rd March 2014, 11:42

    IMO, go to euro parts and but a phase 2 1.1 midpipe for £11.50 or whatever they are these days.
    Its smaller diametere so will restrict slightly at the higher revs, but on the upside its super cheap and you may even notice a bit of a gain in low/midrange.
31. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #31 3rd March 2014, 11:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hazmanscoop Yeah i know you did, but im sure gash is selling both that pipe AND the decat pipe... Am i correct? and i needed to know the diameter in mm as my exhaust is 50mm i believe.

    Sure you can buy that section separate.,i did the other year.
32. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #32 3rd March 2014, 11:45

    You can from Kam i think, im on about Gashman selling his! haha
33. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #33 3rd March 2014, 21:30

    Ahhhh wtf do I need to buy!!! Gash you got a photo of yours?
    
    Also can I fit a cat with any of these pipes and backboxes?
34. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #34 3rd March 2014, 21:46

    *sigh* lol
    
    the link you posted - yes.
35. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #35 4th March 2014, 06:10

    The link I posted, they've just messaged me saying it will only fit a standard cat pipe and a standard sized backbox.
    
    What's the size of the vts exhaust standard?
36. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #36 4th March 2014, 06:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hazmanscoop Ahhhh wtf do I need to buy!!! Gash you got a photo of yours? Also can I fit a cat with any of these pipes and backboxes?

    
    Photo already posted.
37. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #37 4th March 2014, 09:33

    You've posted one? where is it?
    
    I need to know the diameter in mm
38. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #38 4th March 2014, 13:56

    is there any difference on the VTS exhaust between the Mk2 on 2000 reg and those afterwards?
39. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #39 4th March 2014, 20:26

    
40. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #40 4th March 2014, 20:46

    Cheers man, think that's the one I'm after so it goes over the back box. Does that come in one or two parts?
41. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #41 4th March 2014, 20:47

    you need to remember you need an olive join to join to your cat. A sleeve fitment wont fit.
42. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #42 4th March 2014, 21:40

    What's an olive join? :/
    
    I've currently got a decat on ATM
43. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #43 4th March 2014, 21:45

    I've just googled it, think I have one on the car already? I'm sure the super sprint or cat slides into the other part. The centre pipe goes over the pipe of the backbox and slides on and clamps down, even though the end is flaired
44. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #44 4th March 2014, 23:00

    Naw.
    
    You're making this difficult man.
    
    Olive join you need this clamp
    http://www.autocarparts4u.co.uk/img/...6-thickbox.jpg
    
    Sleeve join is
    
    http://www.motorspeed.com/sitepix/pr...aust-clamp.jpg
    
    it's self explanitary if you pull your exhaust apart
    
    Yours will be a olive join as the cat has a olive join to the centre section as does the centre section to the backbox.
45. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #45 5th March 2014, 06:57

    Sorry man, I'm useless!!!
    
    Ok, yeah I've got them, although rather corroded. So I'll be replacing them as well!
    
    Cheers for the help fellas.
    
    Gash, I'm thinking Saturday I'll be able to come get the pipe? That alright with you? Drop me a pm.
46. user_59318 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Reading Posts: 804 Icelandic Furio

    #46 5th March 2014, 21:25

    Saturdays fine with me mate. You definitely want the supersprint yeah?
47. Hazmanscoop Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Witney Posts: 2481 Black VTS

    #47 7th March 2014, 11:19

    What size exhaust gasket will i need?
    
    Is it standard size for a VTS with a supersprint pipe?