Non PAS

1. tomnelson Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 coalville Posts: 711 project flat arch

   #1 6th March 2014, 21:52

   I want to convert to non power steering would I need just the rack or the rack and column ?
   Many thanks.
2. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #2 6th March 2014, 22:23

   Both or neither. You can just take the pump and pipes off. You may nees to remove the ram off the steering rack.
   
   Or if you go to a non pas rack you will need column too
   
   Do a search as I found some threads very helpful.

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3. aldred309uk Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2014 Blackburn, Lancashire Posts: 596 2002 Citroen Saxo desire 2001 Volvo V40 1.9D

   #3 7th March 2014, 06:57

   Just unplug the pas?
4. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #4 7th March 2014, 09:50

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...ght=remove+pas

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5. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #5 7th March 2014, 10:00

   Hi Tom,
   
   It's fairly straightforward to do. I kept the PAS rack in mine as it's slightly shorter than the Non-PAS rack. Remove the rack, drain the fluid, take the hydraulic ram off, and then refit the rack. You'll need to refit the bolts as it's an MOT fail if there are open ports on the rack. I used chemical metal to fill the holes in the original bolts and simply refitted them. You can then unplug the pump and remove it and the hoses, and chuck them. I weighed mine, it's around 11kg you save.

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6. dontpannic Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2013 Orpington, Kent, UK Posts: 228 Saxo VTS, Fiesta ST

   #6 14th March 2014, 17:49

   I did it the proper way and replaced the entire rack and steering column from a 106 Zest I think it was! Lighter than a modified PAS rack, takes up less room in the bay and lighter too. Best thing I ever did was ditching the PAS!
7. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #7 14th March 2014, 19:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dontpannic I did it the proper way and replaced the entire rack and steering column from a 106 Zest I think it was! Lighter than a modified PAS rack, takes up less room in the bay and lighter too. Best thing I ever did was ditching the PAS!

   There isn't a proper way as such.
   
   What you have done is removed all of it and fitted a non-PAS setup, which is fine, but it's lighter turn to turn because it's a longer rack.
   
   If you want a quicker rack, you can remove the ram from the PAS rack and use that with no fluid, it's a cheap way of getting a quick rack compared to the standard non-PAS setup.
   
   Quaife also offer a quick rack which is even faster, but more money.
   
   Ditching the PAS gives a lovely steering feel on the move, but it's worth working out what you want. An entire non-PAS setup will work and be lighter, just like driving a non-PAS car, a PAS rack converted will be faster, but harder work for parking etc.
8. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #8 14th March 2014, 19:55

   It's worth noting if you fit a converted PAS setup, you will likely need the PAS steering column as well, as they're different. Or they were when I converted my 1995 106 with a 2003 PAS converted to non PAS setup.
9. user_62405 L-plater Joined: Nov 2012 Dalbeattie Posts: 80 Saxo VTR Diablo Red

   #9 6th April 2014, 15:55

   Will this not cause an issue at MOT time !!
10. dontpannic Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2013 Orpington, Kent, UK Posts: 228 Saxo VTS, Fiesta ST

    #10 21st June 2014, 08:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Norm7446 Will this not cause an issue at MOT time !!

    No... Why would it?
    
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