Do you run 4 pots ? If so can you help ?

1. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

   #1 24th March 2014, 18:11

   So I've got my brembo 4 pot caliper a from a 406 on my current vtr, occasionally I like a blast out on the way back from work as I'm sure many other people do,
   
   However tonight I nearly needed to change myself as from braking from anything over 60 causes the rear end to lift and makes it step out a lot in some cases
   
   Anybody else have similar problems and is there a cure without taking them off or filling the boot with dense material
2. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

   #2 24th March 2014, 19:38

   Getting stiffer torsion bars/anti-roll bar/bushes?
   
   Have you got good tyres?
3. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

   #3 24th March 2014, 19:40

   All power flex bushes underneath, and lowered 40mm with koni adjustables and spax springs
4. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #4 24th March 2014, 19:53

   load compensator probably seized, little that they do, if the valve is seized and gives no braking it does upset the balance dramatically.

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5. robster247 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 cumbria Posts: 1239 Satin black furio

   #5 25th March 2014, 07:14

   Run toyo t1r all around, it's also got swampy lines throughout with a wildwood bias valve, will maybe try turn it up ?
6. user_12874 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 London, England Posts: 734 Saxo VTS, Audi A6 Avant Quattro.

   #6 25th March 2014, 08:53

   You need to tweak it and go for a drive until you have the set up how you like!
7. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #7 25th March 2014, 09:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by robster247 Run toyo t1r all around, it's also got swampy lines throughout with a wildwood bias valve, will maybe try turn it up ?

   That's probably the problem right there...
   
   I jest. they are shit and I feel sorry for you for getting ripped off, but nonetheless, I think Merion has it right - load compensator probably the issue.
8. user_13958 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068

   #8 25th March 2014, 11:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by robster247 Run toyo t1r all around, it's also got swampy lines throughout with a wildwood bias valve, will maybe try turn it up ?

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross That's probably the problem right there... I jest. they are shit and I feel sorry for you for getting ripped off, but nonetheless, I think Merion has it right - load compensator probably the issue.

   I know swampy stuff was crap but I'm sure his kit removed the load compensator not just added a bias valve?
   
   If that's the case sounds like the bias just needs adjusting. Try a little more rear braking but you wont want the rears locking up first.
9. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #9 25th March 2014, 11:17

   swampy kit wasn't crap, the service was crap, its actually a half decent product, same as what you get from KAM racing but with far better customer service.
   
   make sure you wind the valve the right way, it doesn't work like a water tap.
10. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #10 25th March 2014, 14:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by welshpug swampy kit wasn't crap, the service was crap, its actually a half decent product, same as what you get from KAM racing but with far better customer service. make sure you wind the valve the right way, it doesn't work like a water tap.

    None of his lines I ever saw fitted correctly. Nearly all were wrong lengths. That's on the three "kits" he sold that I've seen personally. the brake bias valve I bought from him (at the same time as buying a "kit") had fittings that were incompatible with the lines he'd supplied.
    
    Parts were packaged so badly the first time I bought anything from him that the bag had split open and lost bolts etc. He then went silent and refused to answer PM's, emails etc, until I wanted to buy something else - more fool me.
    
    He's banned from here for a reason. Products supplied by exact (his supplier) are good - but he specified the lengths and parts wrong, and then didn't back anything up with any form of service.
    
    Anyone using him does so at their own risk. I'd FAR rather go to a reputible supplier, pay 5% more, and get the right bits the first time, and with a quality aftersales service.

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11. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #11 25th March 2014, 19:26

    You can ad my 'kit' to that list Ross lol
    Had to buy a new setup off someone else in the end as it worked out cheaper than fixing the issues with the previous!
12. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #12 26th March 2014, 10:04

    I have the same problem on my 106, if I stand on the brakes the rear wheels will lift off the ground.
    
    Smaller torsion bars (more droop) may help (I have 25mm bars) I tried stiffer front dampers but that didn't cure it.
    
    Is your car lowered?