Wilwoods / Hi-specs

1. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

   #1 22nd April 2014, 13:43

   Quick question:
   
   do these fit under standard VTS wheels?
   
   looking for a set that will fit under my road wheels as pro races will be fine for track.
   
   thanks
2. Jamie Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9363 Focus ST & 206 GTI180

   #2 22nd April 2014, 13:51

   Wilwoods do. Not sure about hi specs.
   
   For confirmation go on to Prickles thread he has just fitted a set of Wilwoods.

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3. user_11460 Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Staffs Posts: 3778 207 HDi GT

   #3 22nd April 2014, 13:57

   Wilwoods fitted with my winter VTS wheels
4. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

   #4 22nd April 2014, 13:58

   what size were the wilwoods you had simon? and did you use standard vts hoses or gti6 ones?
5. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #5 22nd April 2014, 14:00

   Wilwoods fit under VTS wheels just fine. They use a 288mm disc. You'll need new hoses as the calipers use an american thread - Rally Design or HEL can supply.

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6. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

   #6 22nd April 2014, 14:04

   As per pm dude.
7. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #7 22nd April 2014, 14:22

   Hi-specs fit under vts rims too

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8. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

   #8 22nd April 2014, 14:44

   Excellent, thanks chaps
9. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

   #9 22nd April 2014, 14:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross Hi-specs fit under vts rims too

   without spacers ross?
10. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #10 22nd April 2014, 14:54

    Yep. Without spacers.
    
    The brembo's need spacers mind - 20mm iirc.
11. user_56776 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Cheshire Posts: 872 Nothing fun anymore....

    #11 22nd April 2014, 14:57

    If you go Wilwoods I'd highly recommend Performance Friction Pads for track. About £65 delivered from Demon Thieves and are really good.
12. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

    #12 22nd April 2014, 14:58

    thanks, and finally.. what master cylinder do you guys recommend.. going from standard with gti6 brakes so want the best feel but not to abrupt.
    
    23mm?
13. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

    #13 22nd April 2014, 14:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtectransplant If you go Wilwoods I'd highly recommend Performance Friction Pads for track. About £65 delivered from Demon Thieves and are really good.

    
    Oh that's another question..
    
    in wilwoods and hi-specs can you get ds2500s / yellow stuffs etc is one easier for pads then the other? more range etc
14. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #14 22nd April 2014, 15:00

    John is running with stock MS on the vts and described them as "good" - slightly increased travel over standard but lots of feel, no bite. If you're used to gti6 I suspect you'll not see any difference (my opinion only)
15. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #15 22nd April 2014, 15:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AdamH Oh that's another question.. in wilwoods and hi-specs can you get ds2500s / yellow stuffs etc is one easier for pads then the other? more range etc

    I just phoned Kev (KAM) and he sorted CL pads for me for the hi-specs. IIRC, they're the same as a volvo 240 pad or something totally random lol
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 22nd April 2014, 15:03

    Standard m/c with the pedal adjusted a thread or 2. Its decent.pedal travel is fine too. Its not a sharp ping but it stops you very well. Liam is also using the standard m/c too on his track VTS.
    
    Obviously if you wanted you could change the m/c but i honestly dont see the need but mines a daily.
17. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

    #17 22nd April 2014, 15:07

    Excellent.. thanks for the info guys
    
    Volvo 240 I have heard that before
    
    ill try it with the standard master then seen if its what I want
18. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #18 22nd April 2014, 16:29

    I run DS2500s in mine. They were roughly the same price as EBC Yellows when I bought them, so thought I'd see what all the fuss was about. Seems like they've shot up in price since - see here.
    
    I'd probably just go for Yellows in future - always found them nice and consistent under hard track use. Everyone seems to have different preferences as far as pads go though.
19. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #19 22nd April 2014, 16:31

    Ive gone for yellowstuff pads. Not used them yet but heard good things by a few people. Around £60 iirc
20. AdamH Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 South Posts: 3638

    #20 22nd April 2014, 17:50

    i have been using yellow stuffs for years now. less brake dust and better feel compared to mintex 1144s and 1155s I have used.
    
    anyone know what size disc the hi-specs are? as wilwood 285mm x 21mm Vented
21. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #21 22nd April 2014, 19:32

    285mm x 21mm
22. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #22 23rd April 2014, 14:34

    THREAD HIJACK!!
    
    im sure that i heard some fit under 14's, does anyone know if this is true? if so what ones?
23. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #23 23rd April 2014, 14:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 THREAD HIJACK!! im sure that i heard some fit under 14's, does anyone know if this is true? if so what ones?

    Hi-Spec do a lightweight caliper to run with 266mm discs that will fit under 14" rallye steels
    
    Hi-Spec Ultralite 4 piston caliper.

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24. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #24 23rd April 2014, 14:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by D4MJT Hi-Spec do a lightweight caliper to run with 266mm discs that will fit under 14" rallye steels

    are you following me around the forum? lol and hmm i wonder if they would fit under a vtr wheel with a spacer? and do you know if they will then be able to run capably under 15's?
25. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #25 23rd April 2014, 14:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 are you following me around the forum? lol and hmm i wonder if they would fit under a vtr wheel with a spacer? and do you know if they will then be able to run capably under 15's?

    I'm following you around your house. Your curtains are gay btw.
    
    I'm having a cup of tea and you're the only bugger posting! I've got no idea, Liam_ off of here told me about them, there's a thread on moaners about em I think, many £££'s like. I'd imagine they'd be very capable under 15s. In all honesty, apart from the look and weight, I can't really see the advantage of running anything other than citroen 266's, MuZ uses them with DS2500's and decent discs, and they're very very good on track. We've never had fade yet, and we're hard on them.
    
    In fact, I've just bought a set to use on my car rather than the Brembo's I have in the garage.
26. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #26 23rd April 2014, 14:43

    well i have the std calipers and discs just rc6 pads and it stops no problems with no fade for up to 25 mins hard beating... just need to future proof the car abit now
27. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #27 23rd April 2014, 14:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 well i have the std calipers and discs just rc6 pads and it stops no problems with no fade for up to 25 mins hard beating... just need to future proof the car abit now

    Waxoyl EVERYTHING
    
    
    lolz
28. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #28 23rd April 2014, 14:47

    lol, and found a setup for the 275 discs but nothing smaller...
29. user_11460 Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Staffs Posts: 3778 207 HDi GT

    #29 24th April 2014, 13:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 THREAD HIJACK!! im sure that i heard some fit under 14's, does anyone know if this is true? if so what ones?

    Try yr51ocw
    (boni on other furums IIRC)
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/member.php?u=7238
    
    He used to do (may still) the 247mm HiSpec kits.

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30. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #30 24th April 2014, 13:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simon Try yr51ocw (boni on other furums IIRC) http://www.saxperience.com/forum/member.php?u=7238 He used to do (may still) the 247mm HiSpec kits.

    
    cheers pal
31. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #31 24th April 2014, 18:43

    Andy has 266 hi specs i think.