has fuel, turns over, wants to fire what next? :(

1. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #1 8th June 2014, 12:13

   Trying to start my turbo vtr project, i'm getting no fuel into the rail, firstly, it has fuel everything's connected, i'm not sure if I hear the fuel pump prime though, what else do I need to make sure?
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 8th June 2014, 12:22

   Disconnect the fuel line from the rail,crank the engine over & check for fuel coming out of the line.
3. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #3 8th June 2014, 12:31

   Fuel relay working? Run a love feed to the pump to test
   
   
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4. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #4 8th June 2014, 12:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 Disconnect the fuel line from the rail,crank the engine over & check for fuel coming out of the line.

   Donne that, nothing comes out, just changed fuel pumps and still nothing
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gandi699 Fuel relay working? Run a love feed to the pump to test Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

   How do I do that mate?
5. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #5 8th June 2014, 13:09

   Grab hold of the relay and get someone to put the ignition on and you'll be able to feel it click if its working, and as for running a love to it , can go straight from the battery to the power wire on the plug to the fuel pump mate
6. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #6 8th June 2014, 13:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ali123 Grab hold of the relay and get someone to put the ignition on and you'll be able to feel it click if its working, and as for running a love to it , can go straight from the battery to the power wire on the plug to the fuel pump mate

   Just done that, and yes I can feel it clicking, does that mean it's working then?
7. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #7 8th June 2014, 15:14

   Right, fuel pump now primes have fuel in the rail i'd not done the earth at the back of the car up, now I don't have spark! i've took the coil pack off and turned it over, spark plug isn't sparking
8. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #8 8th June 2014, 15:16

   Crank sensor maybe
   
   
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9. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #9 8th June 2014, 15:51

   Right, she nearly wants to go now, seems I may have dodgey wiring, as the fuel gauge cuts out sometimes until I move wires then it kicks back in, would the fact I have bigger injectors in cause it not to fire?
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 8th June 2014, 15:58

    Doubtful, just will put more fuel in so it'll be rich
    
    
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11. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #11 8th June 2014, 16:35

    Just tried 3 different crank sensors, no luck, l turning over she keeps wanting to fire, then if I stop turning it over, runs literally for 2 seconds, lumpy as hell then dies, what have I done or not done
12. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #12 8th June 2014, 17:55

    Just tried 3 different coil packs, still nothing, turns over for ages then nearly wants to fire, but doesn't
13. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #13 8th June 2014, 18:02

    Break in the wiring somewhere,or a bad earth mate.
14. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #14 8th June 2014, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Break in the wiring somewhere,or a bad earth mate.

    Now going over every earth in the car, will update
15. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #15 8th June 2014, 19:29

    Just checked every earth, I've even ripped out the dash and carpet incase I forgot something, everything's connected, What the fuck have I done lol
16. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #16 8th June 2014, 19:44

    Could I have flooded the engine? I've put 15 quids worth of fuel in, now the gauge has the light on
17. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #17 8th June 2014, 19:52

    How's that happened, that's an awful lot of fuel to use trying to start. Sounds like there's a leak to me!
    
    
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18. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #18 8th June 2014, 19:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 How's that happened, that's an awful lot of fuel to use trying to start. Sounds like there's a leak to me! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    The gauge was playing up before I swapped it to this car would go up and down all the time i've already looked round the whole car, no leaks, everythings connected
19. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #19 8th June 2014, 19:58

    Could be an ecu issue this if there's no spark and you know the sensors are good. what is fitted and if it's oem stuff is it unlocked?
    
    
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20. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #20 8th June 2014, 20:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Could be an ecu issue this if there's no spark and you know the sensors are good. what is fitted and if it's oem stuff is it unlocked? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    I have everything from my donor vtr, interior loom, engine loom, ecu all standard and from the same car which was running, I have no flashing key so it can't be locked, i've just removed a plug, and it reaked of petrol
    
    What's the best way to check spark, can I just remove the coilpack put a plug in, ground it, and crank the engine to see a spark?
21. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #21 8th June 2014, 20:57

    Took the rail out with the injectors, sprays petrol, coil pack out, plugs in, sparks nicely, i'm hit a brick wall with this lol
22. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #22 8th June 2014, 22:11

    Ok so there's fuel and spark, is the timing correct?
    
    
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23. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #23 8th June 2014, 22:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Ok so there's fuel and spark, is the timing correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Will check that tomorrow morning it's the same engine kash had when he turbo'd his vtr and he had it running
24. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #24 9th June 2014, 10:06

    right it appears I don't have spark I swear I did see it spark yesterday though, but now nothing, changed crank sensor and coil pack, starting to think my ecu is fucked?