Possible death of my vts...

1. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

   #1 5th August 2014, 16:48

   So driving back from my mrs earlier, the car drove spot on with no faults as usual. But after trying to fix a rattling in the boot, and going for a test drive, the below happened while 1ft away from my driveway on the drive home.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Camber, yo.
   
   
   
   
   Basically it made a loud bang, and clatter as I pulled onto my drive. So I parked up, got out and had a look to see oil was pissing from underneath.
   I've not a clue where this 'oil' has come from, and not quite sure what the full extent of the damage is, but I presume the wishbone has clearly snapped off, possibly with the driveshaft.
   
   Could anyone give me a rough guesstimate on what this will set me back if it's obvious as to what's fucked? Also bare in mind I'm retarded (mechanically) and will have to be done in a Garage
   Insurance is up next week also and I can't afford that due to losing my job, so debating whether to just call this quits been as money is more than tight atm.
2. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #2 5th August 2014, 17:12

   It's far from dead. About 30 minutes work tbh.
   
   Wishbone. About £35 from ebay.
   
   Could get just the bottom ball joint and have it pressed in which would be slightly cheaper, but for the sake of it its quicker and easier to just get a whole new wishbone.
   
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/17070...f14=108&ff19=0
   
   trust me - you CAN do this yourself. It's a piece of piss. Honestly. If you can take a wheel off, you can do this.
   
   Edit - the oil is just where the wheel/hub has pulled the driveshaft out of the box. When you put your new wishbone in the shaft will reseal in the box. You'll need some gearbox oil for that too obviously.
3. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

   #3 5th August 2014, 17:41

   Made my day Ross
   Suppose I just panicked at first because of the oil and thought the worst, hopefully should get it sorted asap.

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4. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

   #4 5th August 2014, 18:07

   Leave it like that,the camber looks cool.
5. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

   #5 5th August 2014, 18:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VeiRoN Leave it like that,the camber looks cool.

   Will I make it into the stance scene with a Saxo though?
6. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #6 5th August 2014, 18:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SimpleJoee Will I make it into the stance scene with a Saxo though?

   Hasn't stopped dozens of others trying.
7. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

   #7 5th August 2014, 18:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross Hasn't stopped dozens of others trying.

   The key word here ladies and gents is trying!
8. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #8 5th August 2014, 18:34

   Lucky it didn't popped the shaft out, even luckier it didn't happen at speed. As Ross says new wishbone and some gearbox oil, Job jobbed
9. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #9 5th August 2014, 18:35

   Remember to refill your gearbox with oil before you drive it again.
10. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

    #10 5th August 2014, 18:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Lucky it didn't popped the shaft out, even luckier it didn't happen at speed. As Ross says new wishbone and some gearbox oil, Job jobbed

    Tell me about it, literally popped out when I was doing probably 2mph along my drive. I'll still be leaving it to my bamp to fix haha
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_P Remember to refill your gearbox with oil before you drive it again.

    I will keep this in mind also then, seriously I have no clue
11. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #11 5th August 2014, 18:51

    Suprised the tyre wear wasn't a givaway of something up.
12. Jigs2895 Established Member Joined: Jan 2013 Portsmouth Posts: 1335 1997 Mk1 VTS

    #12 5th August 2014, 19:05

    Ive got a wishbone here if you need it, balljoint is in good condition as are the mounts. PM me if you want, its genuine rather than the shit ebay ones.
    
    As above, easy job though really.
13. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

    #13 5th August 2014, 19:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Suprised the tyre wear wasn't a givaway of something up.

    I've known it was on it's way out for a while now, but presumed it wasn't that bad. Oh well only one way to learn
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jigs2895 Ive got a wishbone here if you need it, balljoint is in good condition as are the mounts. PM me if you want, its genuine rather than the shit ebay ones. As above, easy job though really.

    I'm in no rush atm mate, funds are ridiculously low and my insurance runs out next Tuesday. I'll give you a pm in a few weeks if things get sorted out though mate, thanks
14. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #14 5th August 2014, 19:57

    buy a haynes manual and get reading.
    
    with the angle of that shaft probably wise to replace the driveshaft seal too, not expensive from motorfactors, however a pug or citroen dealer is often best bet for the gear oil, it needs to be the proper 75w80 stuff, nothing else and not EP stuff either.
15. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #15 5th August 2014, 20:09

    Basically total transmission bv 75w80.
    Why not the EP rating?
16. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #16 6th August 2014, 07:59

    extra pressure, its for separate diff units not pug/citroen synchros
17. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #17 6th August 2014, 13:16

    Bloody hell that must of been bad for ages to disconnect the ball joint like that
18. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #18 6th August 2014, 13:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte Bloody hell that must of been bad for ages to disconnect the ball joint like that

    Poor maintenance tbh (no offence OP)
    
    There would have been a knock there for ages - looks like it's sheered the ball joint itself, which would have knocked and had tremendous play in it for a while before finally just snapping.
19. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

    #19 6th August 2014, 15:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ross Poor maintenance tbh (no offence OP) There would have been a knock there for ages - looks like it's sheered the ball joint itself, which would have knocked and had tremendous play in it for a while before finally just snapping.

    None taken I'm useless
    It had been knocking for ages, but I presumed it was just some play in the driveshaft and nothing major.
20. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #20 6th August 2014, 15:57

    When it starts knocking like that, you're one pothole short of disaster. Somehow it's a good thing you broke it right in front of your house.
21. user_65821 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2013 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 948 Mk1 VTS, FF BG 182

    #21 6th August 2014, 16:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu When it starts knocking like that, you're one pothole short of disaster. Somehow it's a good thing you broke it right in front of your house.

    Oh trust me it shook me up. I live in the countryside so there's 60 roads all the way towards my house pretty much, lucky isn't the word.
22. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #22 9th August 2014, 09:38

    Your car is going to drive great when that's fixed. Check the other side too, it's probably in a similar state.

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