Important! : Rear end dammage

9th August 2014, 21:42

Well after fitting my new quick silver gear selector rods and changed the gear selector unit on Sunday it was off to work for the week.

So yesterday being FRIDAY and pay day from work. Work was not at all happy with me phoning in saying ill be late.

On the way to work stopped at traffic lights and split off into 2 directions left side turns green right side remains red for about 1 min to 2min longer and then turns green. Next min BANG 4x4 behind me had put the gas on thinking green both sides. Got out and done this to me car.

Both exchanged details and now doing out of insurance settlement as myself and the other drive come to an agreement that he will pay for the pats to be replaced and fitted. Managed to get tailgate and other bits needed.

However not been to garage to be fitted yet as replacement needs to be re sprayed and things changed over from my old one..

The question is that is this a Wright off????

Given the fact that where the boot closes theirs a bar going across the centre and to the sides and is the main frame for it. I have inspected it and it appears to be intact no crumples, crunches or paint flakes. All looks to be the same as before the event. Is their a way to actually inspect more in detail than meats the eye can I go to halfords for some sort of inspection on it.

9th August 2014, 21:51

fit new tailgate, if it lines up, winner, if not then unlucky

9th August 2014, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Oli-VTR

fit new tailgate, if it lines up, winner, if not then unlucky

Am guessing if it does not line up am guessing am screwed then and its off to insurance company for insurance job.

cars only done 54k when I got it and now just coming into the 56k miles going to be rly pissed off if it is as it would be such a waste as the car is perfect almost had a few small jobs to be done on it and end of parts being needed and have perfect runner till upgraded with after market kit

9th August 2014, 22:13

Is the boot floor creased?

9th August 2014, 22:19

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Originally Posted by stevo67

Is the boot floor creased?

Not checked their will have a look at that. all areas around where the lock latch and bar across that area are fine. Will have a look now and report back in a few.

9th August 2014, 23:01

Take a pic of the boot floor.

9th August 2014, 23:04

Ok here are some pictures under dark light seems their is some miner stuff not sure if this is good now or will pass an inspection or pass for safety or fucked. Didn't see this in normal light guess using low light and flash and cam seems to pick lot more detail than I can see. Looking under carpet as requested their is no effected areas what so ever however looking into this more I have found the following.

Orignal tailgate still opens and closes fine however car locking is sticking a as lock is fucked lol other than that lines up fine and closes.

Left side

Red area here think little effected

Right side

Red area think poss effected

For them little bits their very faint and can just about feel them the rest of the bar that goes across is fine

9th August 2014, 23:14

Thatll be off where the boots been pushed down. Check the boot floor, 1/4 panels. You might of got away with it, might not

9th August 2014, 23:38

9th August 2014, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Thatll be off where the boots been pushed down. Check the boot floor, 1/4 panels. You might of got away with it, might not

All the panels on floor look perfectly fine smooth and on back on sides look perfectly fine will have more pictures soon

as sorting other bits on it at min cleaning the other tailgate up and it seems was off a car from a member in here somewhere lol or close by.

Heres a picture of it lol. Managed to get it before took off listing

Wondering whos saxo VTR that was on brakes shame tho when I phoned they had removed most the parts and when I got their they had crushed it I would of took all the bits off them n handed to people on here.

who was the lucky sax-p owner might go into spotted n post in their see who the original person who owned it. Looking at details tax on it only ran out last month.

Had to travel to Rugby, Warwickshire for this as nowhere had one so oh well thank you to the sax p member for the rear tailgate cant believe was in barkers auto shop looked to be in good condition

10th August 2014, 09:10

I'd scrap it! F a saxo with any rear end damage of any kind, what little structural integrity it had is probably up the wazoo now!

10th August 2014, 13:19

Fingers crossed its not. Spoke to bodyshop today sent images to them going to phone me back in a hours time and see what's what. Hoping its not as put a lot of time and effort into getting this project to where it is now. Would be suhh a waste. Trying to find another as already looking and seems almost imposable to find one with low mileage and in same condition

10th August 2014, 16:11

It will be a write off no doubt, saxo would get wrote off for a dented wing.

10th August 2014, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Cam

It will be a write off no doubt, saxo would get wrote off for a dented wing.

Just got off the phone with them and booked in for tomorrow. Advised it can possibly be done depending if theirs any damage under the rear bumper. If theirs no damage to it then can be sorted out. Said if damage under bumper and pushed back then it would mean taking that part of cutting and adding new section into it advised could be up to £700 fix and could go though insurance.

Need to wait and see now tomorrow if its going to be simple or insurance job and long wait while decision made and done.

10th August 2014, 16:42

If it needs that much work it'll be written off Cat C possibly Cat B. Mine was written off for a dent in the front wing. £25 to replace it plus a VIC Check.

10th August 2014, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Mickswan

If it needs that much work it'll be written off Cat C possibly Cat B. Mine was written off for a dent in the front wing. £25 to replace it plus a VIC Check.

write off for dints WTF to a wing that insane.

Al lcan do now is sit back and wait and see what the results are tomorrow. He only advised if £700 if its got crunches under the rear bumper as worse case. If its not then wont be anywhere near that. All can do now is pray to the saxo gods that its good to go. But not getting my hopes up after seeing some comments here going to have worse case as write off and anything else a bonus.

10th August 2014, 17:44

Claiming on the insurance, even though you're not at fault will put your policy up.

Get as much as you can off the bloke and scrap it, if you go to the insurance they'll just write it off anyway + you'll have higher premiums for 3 years.

10th August 2014, 17:47

That would literally cost all of about £20 to fix, max about an hour of time, if the other guy is paying then w/e

Just get a boot door in the same black colour, don't fuck on with respraying, then its about 4 bolts and a couple of clips holding the thing on.

If there is crumpling it'll be a write off in the insurance companys eyes

10th August 2014, 17:58

Bloody insurance companies will write off almost any damage to any car these days, under the uneconomical to repair excuse. Last car accident I had, the insurance company wrote the car off as uneconomical to repair. I eventually settled for £600 and got to keep the car.. Cost less than £200 to repair at a local garage. Plus side was I had protected no claims so didn't lose anything (apart from the month the car was off the road)

10th August 2014, 18:11

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Originally Posted by MuZiZZle

Claiming on the insurance, even though you're not at fault will put your policy up.

Get as much as you can off the bloke and scrap it, if you go to the insurance they'll just write it off anyway + you'll have higher premiums for 3 years.

Woman who hit me was polish and insisted in insurance which was fair enough. Premium went up by £16 so I can't grumble to much.

Just a fuck on.

10th August 2014, 18:27

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Originally Posted by jokerer

That would literally cost all of about £20 to fix, max about an hour of time, if the other guy is paying then w/e

Just get a boot door in the same black colour, don't fuck on with respraying, then its about 4 bolts and a couple of clips holding the thing on.

If there is crumpling it'll be a write off in the insurance companys eyes

£20?!?!? are they on £2.50 an hour??!?!?

10th August 2014, 18:29

Going to get some more pictures n see what's what and see what you guys think until tomorrow wont know fully but gives idea. Really thank you all of posting and commenting giving me ideas of what to expect.

10th August 2014, 19:01

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Originally Posted by jokerer

That would literally cost all of about £20 to fix, max about an hour of time, if the other guy is paying then w/e

Just get a boot door in the same black colour, don't fuck on with respraying, then its about 4 bolts and a couple of clips holding the thing on.

If there is crumpling it'll be a write off in the insurance companys eyes

I do love it when someone comes on with ziltch experience and shoots they're mouth off.

10th August 2014, 19:53

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Originally Posted by jokerer

That would literally cost all of about £20 to fix, max about an hour of time, if the other guy is paying then w/e

Just get a boot door in the same black colour, don't fuck on with respraying, then its about 4 bolts and a couple of clips holding the thing on.

If there is crumpling it'll be a write off in the insurance companys eyes

Indeed that part its a small fix to put the tailgate on as I know to do this as not really the main part am worried or bothered about.

Moving forward some more pictures not sure if can make much out on these but moving around in a boot to try taking pictures and move stuff around to move carpet up is a pain with inches to move lol

10th August 2014, 20:06

If the tailgate closed and opens fine then it should be just fine mate , a lower bump on the bumper would of creased the floor / lower panels , happened to me and the tailgate did not shut , I had it pulled out at the body shop on my old XR2 for 400 quid , new lower panel and chucked on a second hand bumper job done

10th August 2014, 20:25

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Originally Posted by nuttysaxo

If the tailgate closed and opens fine then it should be just fine mate , a lower bump on the bumper would of creased the floor / lower panels , happened to me and the tailgate did not shut , I had it pulled out at the body shop on my old XR2 for 400 quid , new lower panel and chucked on a second hand bumper job done

One of me fav cars the old XR2 XR2i and the escort rs and a few others.

Yea it opens closes almost fine just that the lock on it where locks and push in to open is split but other than that it locks up closes fine.

400 not bad but us and our prides lol.. You still got the XR2 ?

And fingers crossed and the saxo gods looiing down saying its fine stop moaning lol

10th August 2014, 20:29

From what I can see, count yourself lucky it was a 4x4 and it hit your boot as opposed to your bumper. Nothing seems creased there, you need to check the rear quarter too, behind the glued on carpet. A new boot should be a perfectly satisfactory repair imo.

11th August 2014, 05:31

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Originally Posted by DaCrazyOne

One of me fav cars the old XR2 XR2i and the escort rs and a few others.

Yea it opens closes almost fine just that the lock on it where locks and push in to open is split but other than that it locks up closes fine.

400 not bad but us and our prides lol.. You still got the XR2 ?

And fingers crossed and the saxo gods looiing down saying its fine stop moaning lol

I would if I could not involve the insurance for light damage if the other person is good with it mate ? , too much stress .
XR2 was sold 6 years a go mate , great car but I wanted a change kind of regret it now but such is life , I could get my hands on another one but it needs some real tlc .
£400 pound damage was like 8 years a go and the damage was not too bad in my opinion a lot of cars get written off way to easily .
Keep the saxo faith my friend !

11th August 2014, 11:00

If it's looking like just a replacement boot then definitely aim to get that done outside of any insurance involvement.

11th August 2014, 21:45

Well took car in this morning. Looks like its going to be fixed however frame needs to be taken off to be re shaped is a tiny amount of being out of line and boot floor pushed to correct level as its partly raised a little

However said is far from Wright off on the pictures I sent he said he really couldn't tell but looking more into it other parts of work needs to be done that didn't show up on pictures but did on inspection pointed out and could see where he was on about being a fraction of being razed around where the boot closes. Other than that and the frame to be re shaped and tapped back into shape a little not much to be done other than that all is good.

He said I was extremely lucky given the fact of what hit me and where. He said you where saved by the fact that your car has been lowered. If it was at the standard hight your bumper and the rest of the frame would of been crushed in and a total write off and a loss.

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Originally Posted by nuttysaxo

I would if I could not involve the insurance for light damage if the other person is good with it mate ? , too much stress .
XR2 was sold 6 years a go mate , great car but I wanted a change kind of regret it now but such is life , I could get my hands on another one but it needs some real tlc .
£400 pound damage was like 8 years a go and the damage was not too bad in my opinion a lot of cars get written off way to easily .
Keep the saxo faith my friend !

Had same sort of running with having a mini cooper decided on selling it cos needed the cash at the time. Then looked at getting another for £200 as a project car decided against it at the time. Looking back the same car would be worth about 3 to 5k depending on condition and mileage and work done.

16th August 2014, 18:26

Took in today this morning should have car back tomorrow. All good as new from what I have been told theirs no creases under the rea bumper or any main faults on it. All that was needed to be done is where the joints meet said like a person on here its just pushed them in and can be sorted out. If the impact to the back was any lower then it would of been wrote off class your self lucky that it can be repaired and that no serious damage was caused. He advised that it was due to the boot being crushed in that its caused the faint lines on it and the boot floor was partly rose in one section that has been fixed and sorted out.

Good thing their is no serious structural damage and has since been tested and passed all safety checks and inspections carried out and no structural damage has been caused due to the event.

Now I can continue with my project and get some money saved up for the bigger jobs.

Anyone know where to get new carpets from as thinking for a full new carpet and different colour in???

16th August 2014, 20:03

If you mean a full interior carpet then your best off looking in the yellow pages mate,i don't think citroen sell them new anymore.or the pug 106 they have a model with a red or blue carpet.