Problems with cam

1. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #1 9th September 2006, 18:13

   Just had my piper 285 cam fitted and my car to say the least has lost performance alot of it runs like a bag of hammers now i know it does need a remap but i dont think it should be running like this anyone can shed some light on this problem would be great
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 9th September 2006, 19:56

   your cam timing isnt set right. plus the peak power of that cam will probab;y be above your standard RPM limit.
3. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #3 9th September 2006, 19:57

   285!!! holy poo.
4. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #4 9th September 2006, 19:58

   that isnt the actual duration of the cam. for some reason they name them a higher spec than they are.
5. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #5 9th September 2006, 20:15

   will be 26 something
6. jezpick Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Notts Posts: 280 mk 2 1.1 sax

   #6 9th September 2006, 22:14

   as you said matey, it needs a re map
7. scott_nw Newbie Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2

   #7 10th September 2006, 00:39

   will need a remap indeed pal and rev limit raised slightly
8. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #8 10th September 2006, 02:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts that isnt the actual duration of the cam. for some reason they name them a higher spec than they are.

   but it'll be a sports cam rather than a fast road for instance yeah?
9. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #9 10th September 2006, 08:52

   yeah its the higher of the two availible the rallye/road cam i never had a timing disk with it so i beleive the mechanic set it to the standard timing of the car so this could be the main reason do you think
10. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #10 10th September 2006, 08:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts your cam timing isnt set right. plus the peak power of that cam will probab;y be above your standard RPM limit.

    Hi mate i see your from the north east where abouts if i was yo cross your palm with some of the queens english pounds would you come and have a look at the car for me if you have time and give your opinion on what it could be
11. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #11 10th September 2006, 18:55

    ok try again does anyone have a timing disk for a piper 285 cam so i can get the timing correct i beleive this to be the problem as im getting no bottom end power whatsoever so i think the standard timing is no good for this cam
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 10th September 2006, 21:35

    have you got a vernier pulley fitted?
    
    with them cams you will loose bottom end power but will gain power higher up the revs.
    
    im from northumberland mate.
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 10th September 2006, 21:36

    but it'll be a sports cam rather than a fast road for instance yeah?
    
    thast prob what they would catagorise it as yeah, but tbh the 'fast road' spec cam is not worth doing for the increase you'll see.
14. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #14 11th September 2006, 18:18

    Yes its the ultimate road the timing should be 32-68 and 68-32 as im no expert i dont have a clue how to set this and dont have timing disk so im just biting the biscuit and have it booked into the local tuning shop on thursday and look into the possible remap aswell with the same place depending on price
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 11th September 2006, 18:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts but it'll be a sports cam rather than a fast road for instance yeah? thast prob what they would catagorise it as yeah, but tbh the 'fast road' spec cam is not worth doing for the increase you'll see.

    yeah just as i understood it, it was a bit crazy to go for a sports cam as the engine is pretty much useless for everyday driving.
16. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #16 11th September 2006, 18:22

    i put a post up in the for sale section and this one come up from gaf vts and for the bargain price of £100 i couldnt miss it come boxed and un opened
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 11th September 2006, 18:29

    no dude sorry i wasnt having a go at all. i'm just more interested in the whole camming thing
18. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #18 11th September 2006, 18:29

    if its mapped properly then most cams will idle.
19. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #19 11th September 2006, 18:38

    it seems rough now on idle but i wouldnt say its terrible just louder and thats with the standard timing so hopefully once this is all set up it should be even better
20. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #20 11th September 2006, 18:39

    it should be. they are really sensitive to how they are timed.
21. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #21 15th September 2006, 17:55

    cam is all done it was 1 tooth out so they reset it now its back to running great feels a hell of alot quicker too and alot more noise too i may have to get a silencer for the center section