Brake discs upgrade

1. Daniel_Saxo_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2014 Cambridgeshire Posts: 130 Saxo VTR phase 2 with SUPERSPRINT ! ;D

   #1 28th December 2014, 20:48

   Hi guys,
   
   I know there's a lot of threads on brake uprades, but none that I could see that answer my question.
   
   Hopefully some of you maybe able to help...
   
   I want to keep with stock callipers and sizes etc.
   
   I have fitted OEM Brembo brake discs and pads on the rear, they seem good. I have also bought front Brembo pads for the front, but I am stuck what discs are best to buy.
   
   What are my brake disc options?
   
   Brembo Max?
   
   Mintex drilled and grooved?
   
   MTECH dimpled and grooved?
   
   Any advice?
   
   Many thanks
   
   Daniel
2. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #2 29th December 2014, 09:37

   Wouldn't bother with drilled/grooved unless it's just a track car?
   Drilled discs weaken with the heating up and cooling down of normal road use and can crack.
   Grooved isn't worth it either really because pad wear will increase quite a lot and they could end up cracking again.
   Just get some Brembo OEM ones. It's more about pads than discs
   
   
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3. Gordzilla Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 2369

   #3 29th December 2014, 11:56

   Agree with above ( well apart from grooved discs cracking ). I have seen first hand what cracked drilled discs look like after 'failing' and it's not pretty. Stay clear of EBC too, quite weak build quality !
   
   I wouldn't have worried about your rear discs and pads, you coulda saved a bit of money as many would advice you to spend most of the cash on the front. The rear only does something like 20% of your breaking.
   
   I'm a huge fan of Mintex and Ferodo. If you've already bought Brembo pads then stick to Brembo discs, don't mix and match. I have never ran Brembo gear so I have no clue how they perform. But they seem popular.
   
   make sure you use a good brake fluid as well.
4. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #4 29th December 2014, 12:29

   You can mix and match discs and pads all you like as long as each axle uses the same product left and right. Best to understand what you are doing though if you do this.....
   
   You will most certainly not see any benefit to running drilled or grooved discs on the road.
   I would just fit Brembo plain front discs for your saxo
   
   Along with your Brembo Brake pads you have already bought you will have a braking system as good as OEM.
   
   Should you wish to upgrade the brakes then I would recommend two brake pad compounds for a road car. The Mintex M1144 or the Ferodo DS2500
   
   As Gordzilla says. Give the brake fluid a change. Old brake fluid can make the braking really quite shit.
5. Daniel_Saxo_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2014 Cambridgeshire Posts: 130 Saxo VTR phase 2 with SUPERSPRINT ! ;D

   #5 29th December 2014, 16:25

   It needed rear discs and pads anyway, so I had to replace them. Also the calliper was seized up so I had to free that off. Made the car feel much more stable braking from high speed.
   
   I'll just fit Plain Brembo discs then, if there's no advantage with Brembo Max's...??
6. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #6 29th December 2014, 17:25

   I opted for plain Brembo discs and Mintex 1144 pads along with braided lines on the front of my VTS, they work well.
7. antranig7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 64

   #7 30th December 2014, 07:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dave_P I opted for plain Brembo discs and Mintex 1144 pads along with braided lines on the front of my VTS, they work well.

   do braided lines make difference on high speeds hard braking?
   Also, is there any downside for using Braided lines ? (more stress on pump or somtn ?)
   
   car is 106 s16 full original brakes
   
   Tnx
8. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #8 30th December 2014, 09:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Daniel_Saxo_VTR It needed rear discs and pads anyway, so I had to replace them. Also the calliper was seized up so I had to free that off. Made the car feel much more stable braking from high speed. I'll just fit Plain Brembo discs then, if there's no advantage with Brembo Max's...??

   There are advantages to grooved discs but you wont see that benefit on the road. If you dont glaze your pads then you wont see any benefit anyway...
   Brembo Max look nicer.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by antranig7 do braided lines make difference on high speeds hard braking? Also, is there any downside for using Braided lines ? (more stress on pump or somtn ?) car is 106 s16 full original brakes Tnx

   Theres no downside. VS good condition oe hoses I doubt you can tell the difference, but they dont deteriorate like standard rubber so will give a consistent pedal feel. They are far more resistant to damage and failure due to damage plus you can get some nice colours
9. Gordzilla Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 2369

   #9 31st December 2014, 18:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by antranig7 do braided lines make difference on high speeds hard braking?

   It's only noticeable on track or if you drive really hard on road. Good upgrade if you can afford it as they last longer than standard.