furio not starting

1. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

   #1 7th July 2015, 19:00

   Hi guys and gals my furio wont start its firing but no go. changed spark plugs coil pack pressed the red button lol and crankshaft sensor also fuel relay switch and new fuel any ideas please help. thanks in advance
2. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #2 7th July 2015, 19:20

   The engine is turning over yes? Is it fuelling? Is it sparking? Is it getting air? The 3 things that an engine needs to run.
   Does it try to fire and sort of splutter or just turn over?
   
   
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3. Mickswan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2013 Jarrow Posts: 4022 2003 Icelandic Grey 16v VTR 1991 Daihatsu GTti

   #3 7th July 2015, 19:31

   Check the injectors
4. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

   #4 7th July 2015, 19:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jbrady72 The engine is turning over yes? Is it fuelling? Is it sparking? Is it getting air? The 3 things that an engine needs to run. Does it try to fire and sort of splutter or just turn over? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

   yes its getting spark fuel and air mate thanks
5. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #5 7th July 2015, 19:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by simo1 yes its getting spark fuel and air mate thanks

   
   Have you tried the spark plugs out of the engine to 100% see its sparking?
   Also taken injectors out and tried starting to see if they're squirting?
   
   Is the key light flashing on the dash at all?
   
   
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6. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

   #6 7th July 2015, 19:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mickswan Check the injectors

   i was thinking this but because it hasnt been staerted for 6 months. but wouldnt it start but misfire thanks
7. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

   #7 7th July 2015, 19:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jbrady72 Have you tried the spark plugs out of the engine to 100% see its sparking? Also taken injectors out and tried starting to see if they're squirting? Is the key light flashing on the dash at all? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

   tried the spark plugs need to check injectors and also immobiliser
8. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

   #8 7th July 2015, 19:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by simo1 tried the spark plugs need to check injectors and also immobiliser

   
   Take injectors out and try starting and see if it squirts.
   If not, see if fuel is getting to the rail.
   Does the fuel pump prime?
   Also see if the key light is flashing on the dash when trying to start it
   
   
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9. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

   #9 7th July 2015, 19:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jbrady72 Take injectors out and try starting and see if it squirts. If not, see if fuel is getting to the rail. Does the fuel pump prime? Also see if the key light is flashing on the dash when trying to start it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

   Yea fuel pump primes and fuel at the rail no key light on dash either so just gona take the injectors out
10. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #10 7th July 2015, 19:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simo1 Yea fuel pump primes and fuel at the rail no key light on dash either so just gona take the injectors out

    
    Yes must be injectors. Only other thing would be crank sensor but you say you've replaced that, I assume for one you know is working or a brand new one??
    
    
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11. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

    #11 7th July 2015, 19:55

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    Originally Posted by jbrady72 Yes must be injectors. Only other thing would be crank sensor but you say you've replaced that, I assume for one you know is working or a brand new one?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    yea brand new mate. what about ecu locked?
12. user_64763 Established Member Joined: Jun 2013 York Posts: 2134 Citroen Saxo VTR (2001)

    #12 7th July 2015, 19:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simo1 yea brand new mate. what about ecu locked?

    
    Has it had a conversion or ecu from another car or whatever? If not then it wont have locked, if it had it would come up with the key light flashing anyway I believe.
    First step is to try injectors out and see if they're squirting.
    Make sure all earths are cleaned up, everything's plugged in and all connections are clean.
    
    
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13. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #13 7th July 2015, 20:04

    Put some fresh fuel in,it's possible that the fuel already in there has lost some of it's octane.
14. Tomthetopper Newbie Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 25

    #14 7th July 2015, 21:04

    This will get poo pooed by lots of people due to its aggressive nature, buts using holts 'easy start' or similar will get just about anything going. Soray down the inlet during cranking and BOOOOM. Ive used it a number of times on my cars and it works a charm after the car has been sat for a while.
15. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #15 8th July 2015, 10:49

    Ive also used it to test an engine but you dont want to go crazy with it its nasty stuff and wont do the engine much good in the long run.
16. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

    #16 8th July 2015, 21:21

    hiya just had a diagnostics on it today it reads 135 136 and 141 codes, so lambda and whats the other sensor called it comes up with oxygen sensor heating element.thanks... and also have tried easy start but wont go mate.
17. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #17 8th July 2015, 21:31

    Oxygen sensor is the lambda sensor,they have they're own heating element.
18. simo1 Newbie Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 11

    #18 9th July 2015, 05:25

    Ok thanks gd to know. Does the furio have 2 lambda sensors then? And is it possible for them too both need changing and would this affect the car from not starting?? Thanks.
19. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #19 9th July 2015, 17:41

    Type your reg into euro car parts,then you'll see if two lambda's are fitted.not sure if two can go bad at the same time,the top lambda is the main one.