Definitive guide to VTR alternator set-up conversion.

1. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

   #1 29th September 2015, 19:40

   Thought I would post up a detailed guide on everything you need for the Saxo VTR alternator conversion as I didn't found any with the aim to solve,hopefully,any doubt and to avoid purchasing wrong parts.
   
   
   
   
   Correct Top and Bottom Brackets Diagram:
   
   
   
   
   Bottom Pulley
   
   You can re-use the standard VTS pulley,it does not need to be replaced with the VTR one,I had to change mine as it had play so I just went with the aluminum one.
   
   
   
   Top Alternator Bracket
   
   This one is both fitted to the VTR and lower spec models like the 1.1 petrol,the only difference between these is that the 1.1 and other models,VTR excluded,have a hole in the upper portion of the bracket so that an heat shield can be fitted as seen in the above diagram.
   
   This comes complete with the tensioner for the alternator belt.
   
   
   
   Side view:
   
   
   
   
   
   Bottom Alternator Bracket
   
   This is unique to the Saxo VTR and what you'll need.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Alternator
   
   Same as the bottom pulley,you can re-use the standard VTS alternator.
   
   
   Alternator Belt
   
   You'll need a 5 PK 710 belt,this is fitted to many vehicles but all you need is the part number so you can go to any car dealer and order one,just for clarity it will be a 5 ribs belt with a total length of 710mm.
   
   
   Will I need to make new holes in the block?
   
   No the holes are all there for both the top and bottom bracket,the only thing you'll need to do is to make a few new threads for the bottom bracket,you'll need a standard M8 x 1.25 pitch tap and die set.
   
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   This should cover it all,if any doubt emerges please post in this thread and I'll do my best to help.
2. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #2 29th September 2015, 19:50

   you need a plug tap to clear the rust out, taper tap wont clear deep enough for the bolts to clamp the bracket.
3. Duffy Xsi L-plater Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 94

   #3 30th September 2015, 00:14

   What's the benefit of using the vtr alternator.
   Nice pulley by the way
   
   
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4. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #4 30th September 2015, 07:29

   its the same as a vts, but the brackets dispense with the expensive tensioner pulley.
5. hazlo Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 452

   #5 30th September 2015, 07:30

   Also where did you get the new brackets etc from? I need a couple for a jp4 swap to a 106 gti
6. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

   #6 30th September 2015, 09:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by hazlo Also where did you get the new brackets etc from? I need a couple for a jp4 swap to a 106 gti

   I bought them from eBay,there should still be some left for sale.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Duffy Xsi What's the benefit of using the vtr alternator. Nice pulley by the way Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

   Thanks,with the VTR alternator setup there is more clearance from the manifold and it gets less heat so you avoid frying any cables,useful when you have an unwrapped aftermarket manifold,the tensioning of the belt is quicker and easier and there is no risk of snapping the bolt from the VTS tensioner and yes as said it's a cheaper alternative.
7. Duffy Xsi L-plater Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 94

   #7 30th September 2015, 17:45

   Cool. I'm boosting mine so heat could be a problem lol.
   
   
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8. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

   #8 7th October 2015, 17:21

   Brilliant! Looks well mate. Good guide.
9. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

   #9 8th October 2015, 03:44

   Nice guide...
10. GIANNIS92 Newbie Joined: Jun 2014 Greece, chania. Posts: 3 SAXO VTS 1.6 16V

    #10 12th January 2021, 22:27

    I m looking for this bracket of a vtr saxo...
    Is there someone that sells or I can buy via Paypal to Greece?
11. Carlos82 Newbie Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 4

    #11 20th October 2021, 09:17

    Hi mates.I've fitted the two VTR brackets on a nft 100hp engine but a 97a amp is too big so both pulleys are not un line.Do u know witch is the correct amp for these kind of brackets?
    80a maybe?
    Could i fit any 90a amp?
    Mine is a 106 rallye mk1 for rallying so i dont want an extra pulley for tensioning.The vtr system is better but not sure about the correct amp.
12. Carlos82 Newbie Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 4

    #12 20th October 2021, 09:19

    [QUOTE=Carlos82;6565672]Hi mates.I've fitted the two VTR brackets on a nft 100hp engine but a 97a amp is too big so both pulleys are not in line.Do u know witch is the correct amp for these kind of brackets?
    80a maybe?
    Could i fit any 90a amp?
    Mine is a 106 rallye mk1 for rallying so i dont want an extra pulley for tensioning.The vtr system is better but not sure about the correct amp.
    Just dont want yo waste more money on wrong items.
13. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #13 25th October 2021, 09:36

    I suspect it is not the alternator that is the problem if it fits in the brackets ,but the pulley on it is the wrong offset -change pulley
    or indeed the bottom crank pulley could be changed for a later tin one from a 206
14. Carlos82 Newbie Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 4

    #14 1st November 2021, 10:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman I suspect it is not the alternator that is the problem if it fits in the brackets ,but the pulley on it is the wrong offset -change pulley or indeed the bottom crank pulley could be changed for a later tin one from a 206

    Thanks for your answer.Finally the problem Will be solved the way you said.