For anybody refurbishing their axle,watch this video first.

  1. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #1
    Just wanted to share a very useful video I came across while searching for additional information,the video shows a complete rear axle bearings and shaft replacement,though not from a Saxo but a Berlingo even though the rear axle configuration looks the same,with the tools used for both replacing the axle shaft and to remove and re-install the torsion bars.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCl5..._hLtow&index=1

    They look like fancy tools but I'm sure one could be able to replicate them (the one for the torsion bars is essentially a big ass slide hammer though) if effort (and money) is put into it.

    Anyway I found this pretty interesting,never found it on the forum so hope you can learn something from it as well as I did.
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  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS
    #2
    If you search for the tool in google there is a pdf that contains all the dimensions for all the parts, most of its off the shelf stuff like m20x1.5 threaded rod ect few parts would require someone with a lathe
  3. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #3
    Cool,thank you,actually found one that was for sale not long ago:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-20...p2047675.l2557

    325£ though,no thanks lol

    The part number for the tool set is 1002226 and the repair kit is 965905S

    These are the instructions for the axle shaft extractor:

    https://www.ruville.com/fileadmin/us...den_GB_web.pdf
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #4
    interesting,. always wondered how to pull them apart, anyone know of a source for decent quality shafts? I could make the tool easily enough.

    I've had the Citroen Dealer tools for the Xsara a few years which makes things a lot easier and quicker, and theyre compatible with many others, just not the backwards 106/206/405/vans
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project
    #5
    Looks good but providing you did all the work yourself and bought good quality bearings and shafts and replacement beam bushes you will be close to £150 just buying those then u need to go out and buy allsorts of bits for the toolkit and put them together which I imagine would cost at least £50 if not more for everything, you also need a welder if you don't already own one so by the time you've got all that you've paid out a fair amount and the axle is still a rusty mess which I guess you could clean up with a wire brush, then you need to buy paint.. For all the time and money you would be very close to the cost of buying a refurbished and sandblasted/painted axle. And you also get A 2year warranty which is always good in case of future problems!
  6. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by welshpug View Post
    interesting,. always wondered how to pull them apart, anyone know of a source for decent quality shafts? I could make the tool easily enough.

    I've had the Citroen Dealer tools for the Xsara a few years which makes things a lot easier and quicker, and theyre compatible with many others, just not the backwards 106/206/405/vans
    netcarparts (who possibly have something to do with EuroCarParts iirc) on eBay sells them but I wouldn't know about the quality,they look good enough but I didn't find any other places to buy them from at the moment.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAR-AXLE-...W--xlmTB52JUUw

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte View Post
    Looks good but providing you did all the work yourself and bought good quality bearings and shafts and replacement beam bushes you will be close to £150 just buying those then u need to go out and buy allsorts of bits for the toolkit and put them together which I imagine would cost at least £50 if not more for everything, you also need a welder if you don't already own one so by the time you've got all that you've paid out a fair amount and the axle is still a rusty mess which I guess you could clean up with a wire brush, then you need to buy paint.. For all the time and money you would be very close to the cost of buying a refurbished and sandblasted/painted axle. And you also get A 2year warranty which is always good in case of future problems!
    Too easy to buy one ready to fit,it's the learning process and putting something of mine (mostly anger and desper) it's way I want to do it myself.

    But yes,these "speciality" tools can be quite expensive and would only make sense to me as a future investment when you know they will be used not just once every 10 years,you could manage without them easily.
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #7
    Neat are an independent pug/citroen specialist in west drayton, nothing to do with ecp.


    I'd rather build them myself so I know its done right.
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project
    #8
    I agree its always good to learn new stuff and do things yourself, just putting it out there that either way it won't be a "cheap" fix.

    By the way I think if you are replacing shafts there are two different types for the saxo axles I believe one is slightly longer? I think its something to do with the ARB and Non ARB models. Not totally sure but just thought i'd mention it
  9. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #9
    From what I know the 228mm version should be suitable for a VTS but I'll take the measurements when I take the arms off and post them here.
  10. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2016 manchester Posts: 256
    #10
    As good as it is doing things yourself, unless you've got plenty of spare time and a well equipped garage to f*ck about doing all that, for the price you might as well save yourself the hassle and buy a nice refurbished axle with warranty.
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #11
    from all the tales ive heard, the warranty isn't worth much, snd you really dont need a fully equipped garage, but it does make things easier!
  12. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2016 manchester Posts: 256
    #12
    Why what have you heard about the warranty?
  13. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BUMMERS View Post
    As good as it is doing things yourself, unless you've got plenty of spare time and a well equipped garage to f*ck about doing all that, for the price you might as well save yourself the hassle and buy a nice refurbished axle with warranty.
    Having time and a garage makes everything go easier,equipped garage helps but you don't really need anything special but if you need to take the axle pins out.

    Not too sure about "years" warranty,if an axle has been refurbished properly I would expect it to last as long as the one equipped from factory.
  14. Newbie Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 1997 Pug 106 S16
    #14
    Hi guys, has anyone determined what size the shaft to go in the VTS / 106 S16 axle please? I'm looking to get one for my 1997 106 S16 and seems there are 216 and 228 long shafts, at least the ones Neat sells on ebay, but they don't say which is what. Also, what is the diameter of them?
    I found this one on Birth catalog by crossing some numbers (47 x 216) , but not sure what model it fits as they don't say exactly.



    https://goo.gl/photos/r9visopwE16TRWqq9

    Also found it on eBay:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1711191872...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

    Cheers