problem removing wheels

1. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

   #1 27th July 2016, 19:54

   hi i have a 1.1 saxo, and the wheels are seized on solid, they spin freely but the wheels are rusted on so cant remove them, any ways i could try? used a hammer all ready but there not budging?
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 27th July 2016, 20:05

   You need to support the car properly on axle stands. Then use a a copper or nylon hammer on the rim, rather than hitting the tyre. Smash it as hard as possible, spin 90 degrees, hit again, rotate, hit, rotate hit.
   You will use a lot of force but it will work.
   Once the wheel is off, wire brush all the crud off and clean both the wheel and hub surfaces
3. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

   #3 27th July 2016, 20:11

   i was just using a normal hammer, the wheel is just a steely, wheres the safest place to hold it on axel stands, as it dosnt seem like theres many good, strong areas for it
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 27th July 2016, 21:35

   Either the jacking point or the wishbone.
5. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #5 27th July 2016, 21:54

   I use the rear wishbone bush to jack the car up and then put the axle stand under the jacking point or you can put the axle stands under the kidney shaped bits that the wishbones are mounted too as they're pretty solid areas and wont bend

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6. user_111468 L-plater Joined: Jun 2016 Truro, Kernow Posts: 61 Here's goes!!! Vauxhall corsa Renault Clio TOYOTA

   #6 27th July 2016, 22:00

   I don't like using axle stands on the jacking points unless there the cut away so you don't crush the lip!
   
   Smash the s**t outa it and it will give eventually! 👍🏼⚒🔩
   
   
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7. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

   #7 4th August 2016, 16:18

   had it jacked up yesterday, tried driving back and forward with loose wheelnuts that didnt loosen it, brayed it countless times with the hammer while rotating the wheel, still wont budge even the slightest lol, looks like im going to have to get a bottle of propane and heat it up
8. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

   #8 4th August 2016, 16:52

   bit of WD40 overnight, just be careful not to spray on the brakes.
9. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

   #9 4th August 2016, 17:10

   put plenty of maintenance spray on the other day, but still wont budge lol
10. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #10 4th August 2016, 21:02

    Keep hitting them, got to budge eventually!
11. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #11 4th August 2016, 21:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brian93 put plenty of maintenance spray on the other day, but still wont budge lol

    What part of the country are you based?
12. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #12 5th August 2016, 00:14

    Im in teesside pal
13. user_111468 L-plater Joined: Jun 2016 Truro, Kernow Posts: 61 Here's goes!!! Vauxhall corsa Renault Clio TOYOTA

    #13 5th August 2016, 13:16

    Can't believe they are that welded on! Let us know how you beat it in the end.
    
    
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14. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #14 5th August 2016, 22:20

    I know pal lol, never seen out like it, going to take a torch to them on Tuesday heat them up see if they expand so I can get them off, will update on how I get on
15. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #15 5th August 2016, 22:44

    Try spraying plusgas on the wheel nuts mate.
16. Jizanthapus Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3593

    #16 6th August 2016, 09:16

    Just remove the wheel nuts and go do some handbrake turns!
17. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #17 6th August 2016, 15:22

    The wheel nuts have came off mate, it's the wheel it's self what's rusted on, and no thanks about the handbrake turns lol
18. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #18 6th August 2016, 20:56

    Do this carefully so that you don't mess up the hubs or brake drums,get yourself a pry bar or set of them.Insert a bar between the rear of the wheel and the face of the drum/hub ,tap it in then give the bar a tap with a hammet so that the bar is rocking.
19. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #19 6th August 2016, 21:48

    Be careful when you're heating the wheels up might knacker the wheel bearings if it gets too hot
20. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #20 9th August 2016, 15:42

    Just an update, got the wheels off today, heated them up a few mins with a torch hit them twice with the hammer and they came straight off new brake shoes fitted abit of ajusting all back on and working good now, put some copperslip on the wheel before putting it back on, hopefully wont stick no more

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21. user_106687 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2016 Oxfordshire, bicester Posts: 152 Saxo Vtr in black 53 plate Silvertop with a few mo

    #21 9th August 2016, 20:43

    Copper slip for the win mate.
22. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #22 9th August 2016, 23:28

    Aii mate, its good stuff like, very messy though lol, i used a wire brush on them to begin with then once the rust was rremoved and cleaned up i used the copper slip,
23. user_111468 L-plater Joined: Jun 2016 Truro, Kernow Posts: 61 Here's goes!!! Vauxhall corsa Renault Clio TOYOTA

    #23 10th August 2016, 01:11

    Did you get a pic of the state of em?? 😀
    
    
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24. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #24 10th August 2016, 08:29

    hope you removed other wheels at same time and greased them up ?
    you know the puncture will be on the one you haven,t freed off
25. brian93 L-plater Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 51

    #25 10th August 2016, 17:57

    I didnt take a picture of them mate, affter the trouble id have with them i never want to see them again lol, glad its all sorted now, new shoes on brakes bled, and yea got all wheels off, took a wire brush on a drill to them to remove the rust, greased all the wheels up, brakes are working great now next job is moving on to replacing the front grill, its a mk2 grill i need so im going go get one, the slats out get it painted posi blue and get some mesh for it ill update some photos of progress when i work out how to upload them lol