Rear Axle

  1. Newbie Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 2
    #1
    Hi,
    Any one know were i can get a new set of rear axle bolts from, the ones that hold the axle to the car, its for an 02 vtr
    Thx matt
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #2
    They're just M12x1.75 pitch bolts. nothing fancy.

    ebay?
  3. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #3
    Does anyone know what are the dimensions of axle ID and OD?
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
    #4
    Strange question
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karl_mh View Post
    Strange question
    Not if you want to make your own bearings.

    I used to know what the sizes were for making oilite bearings, but no idea where the info is now. it was on 106owners but that's long gone now.

    someone is bound to know
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
    #6
    Oillite bushes!! Not played with those for a long time. I assume that the needle roller bearings would be replaced by the oillite bushes giving a heavier duty low maintenance solution.


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  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karl_mh View Post
    Oillite bushes!! Not played with those for a long time. I assume that the needle roller bearings would be replaced by the oillite bushes giving a heavier duty low maintenance solution.


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    Yes but by design they will have a bit of play, which some MOT testers decide to fail, not recommended for road use.

    That play is absolutely safe and is more suited to track use.

    There's more movement with a standard bearing, but you can't "feel" any play.

    Needle rollers ftw!
  8. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karl_mh View Post
    Strange question
    I want to make puller extractor tool for axle, so that's why I need this information.
    I thought that there is only one type of axle Saxo/Peugeot 106 but after little research I found out that there are more then just one variant for bearing repair kit and axle

    http://www.marxxon.com/peugeot-rear-...ment·Bush.html

    http://www.marxxon.com/peugeot-rear-...·Axe-Tube.html

    not shown here but there are also two lengths for axle 216mm and 226mm.

    Can someone please confirm, what OEM do I need
    VIN VF7S0HFXB57401680
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2018 Wirral Posts: 151 106 GTI - 106 GTI shell - New 106 Rallye shell
    #9
    I had a quick look on Servicebox using your VIN but only seems to show the trailing arms as a whole plus bearings and seals unless i'm missing something, with my Servicebox permissions this is all it seems to give me.
  10. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #10
    Thank you!

    Arm must fit on axle,what else could it be?I think Servicebox is not showing the whole picture

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Axle...-/321791871481
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #11
    You will need nearly 20 tonnes to break the pin free from the axle.

    It might move with less if you use lots and lots of heat.

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  12. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #12
    I never knew there is a pin, but I do know it takes about 20t to pull the axle. Can you show me where exactly is this pin?
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alexa View Post
    I never knew there is a pin, but I do know it takes about 20t to pull the axle. Can you show me where exactly is this pin?
    No there is no pin, we call the axle tube the axle pin.

    It's press fit

    I suggest you try some kind of hydraulic puller?

    I'm still not sure of the dimensions of the pin/tube though. I don't have a spare axle to measure
  14. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karl_mh View Post
    I had a quick look on Servicebox using your VIN but only seems to show the trailing arms as a whole plus bearings and seals unless i'm missing something, with my Servicebox permissions this is all it seems to give me.

    I don't know why but newer versions don't show the whole picture. Older 2010,2011 do show, but just like you I don't have it, mine is 2013.
  15. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MartinObviously View Post
    No there is no pin, we call the axle tube the axle pin.

    It's press fit

    I suggest you try some kind of hydraulic puller?

    I'm still not sure of the dimensions of the pin/tube though. I don't have a spare axle to measure

    I will try to do without hydraulic. My idea is to find the right size bar in combination with good tensile strength and cut the thread and use a nut to extract. Of course, I will need to machine some other parts and use in combination with this. Assuming that extracting force F=200KN you can calculate necessary parameters for this tool at least in theory.
  16. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #16
    Professional tool kit

    https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/ruville-7020860.html
  17. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #17
    If it is the same type as Ithe one Ive seen some time ago you'll need a welder to use it,as you need to make the outer side of the pin internal diameter smaller so that you can use that to press out the pin,nothing hard,there was a very helpful video on YouTube on how to use the kit but has been taken down for some reason and i haven't found another one since.

    Never mind,found it

    https://youtu.be/ZWI68p_EwbA
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  18. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #18
    Excellent video ,and looks relatively easy to do it this way.I was thinking about, is it a good idea to use welding (but not like this) ,but then again I was not so sure if the weld will hold this massive force.I will definitively go in this direction.Thank you very much!
  19. Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v
    #19
    It's not a massive amount,people need to use 20 tons because they do it the wrong way lol.
  20. L-plater Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 95
    #20
    What is the difference between KS559.06 and KS559.07?Both of them seams to fit on Saxo.
  21. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2018 Posts: 163
    #21
    Looks to me like .06 comes with the small plastic 'cap' for the outside bearing, I think this is used to fit it (that bearing goes in about 14mm to the arm) whereas the .07 does not come with this.

    Both kits have all the bearings and seals required though. I used .07 and it fitted fine to my VTS axle, though I had to use a socket / old bearing to tap the new inner side one into the correct depth.

    That's the only differences I can see- the plastic bearing insertion 'tool'

    .07 kit:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-KS55907-SNR-REAR-AXLE-BEAM-MOUNTING-BUSH-PAIR-P-NEW-OE-REPLACEMENT/263896469198?hash=item3d71748ece:g:is0AAOSw~rhb4bZ F:rk:1f:0

    .06 kit (you can see the outer bearing is sitting inside the plastic cup :

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quinton-Hazell-Suspension-Arm-Repair-Kit-Rear-Qwb9017-fits-PEUGEOT-106-Mk2-1-4/232586536632?hash=item36273ce6b8:g:xo8AAOSw4KVbwym-:rk:3f:0