vts cams

1. jamiep Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 S Wales Posts: 438 Citroen Saxo Westcoast

   #1 20th September 2006, 01:42

   Iv finally decided a vts conversion would be best for my westy but i want to make it a bit more special than a standard vts so i was thinking about cams, manifold and a full system for starters.......how much quicker would it be than a standard vts? im not sure which cams to get yet but ones which will work best with those mods. thanks
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 20th September 2006, 08:52

   to make the most out of your cams you will need it mapped.
   as for cams:
   catcams 708
   kent pt51
   piper bp285
   newmans iirc phase 2
3. jamiep Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 S Wales Posts: 438 Citroen Saxo Westcoast

   #3 20th September 2006, 12:14

   piper are quite a popular choice on here arent they? how much extra bhp do u think they would add before a remap and with 1?
4. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #4 20th September 2006, 12:16

   not much without, i dont know anyone using pipers but with pt51s or 708s you can expect 150-160 after mapping.
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 20th September 2006, 12:16

   try newmans cams, i want to see what they are like
6. Somers Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2003 United Kingdom Posts: 125

   #6 20th September 2006, 12:52

   I have PIPER 285s unmapped at the moment and it REALLY does need mappin LOL
7. jamiep Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 S Wales Posts: 438 Citroen Saxo Westcoast

   #7 20th September 2006, 17:09

   150 sounds good, reckon it could keep up with a redtop corsa?? nova??
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 20th September 2006, 17:19

   quicker
9. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #9 31st October 2007, 23:04

   i have heard things about cammed vts's bein quicker than a redtop corsa is that true. my mate has a redtop astra and that is quick!
10. RICKYP-RPM Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 ower ere Posts: 1282 shitroen spaxo vts

    #10 31st October 2007, 23:10

    i've put a gti engine in my rallye and it beats red top nova's and corsa's.
11. RICKYP-RPM Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 ower ere Posts: 1282 shitroen spaxo vts

    #11 31st October 2007, 23:17

    nova red top
    
12. RICKYP-RPM Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 ower ere Posts: 1282 shitroen spaxo vts

    #12 31st October 2007, 23:31

    corsa red top
    
13. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #13 1st November 2007, 00:11

    Cammed VTS are quick cars.
14. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #14 1st November 2007, 00:55

    iv been told a few days ago if you do the cams on a vts/r it makes it run real bad, asif its a rally car kinda thing, if you get me, and ticks over at real high revs.
    
    but maybe the lad that was telling me hadnt got his mapped when he got it done
15. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

    #15 1st November 2007, 01:39

    After its been mapped it should idle fine.
16. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #16 1st November 2007, 09:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts newmans iirc phase 2

    don't think they do phase 2
    
    on there site they list PH1, PH3 and PH4
    
    think the PH2 may be a mix
17. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #17 1st November 2007, 09:52

    PH2 is PH3 intake + PH1 exhaust. I use this combination on my saxo. The result is amazing. I haven't been on dyno yet but the car is much faster than before. And this is with everything else stock just cams and kind of remap with wideband on the road.
18. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #18 1st November 2007, 10:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nassso PH2 is PH3 intake + PH1 exhaust. I use this combination on my saxo. The result is amazing. I haven't been on dyno yet but the car is much faster than before. And this is with everything else stock just cams and kind of remap with wideband on the road.

    awesome, thats what i thought PH2 was.
    
    i want PH3 cams intake and exhaust!!
19. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #19 1st November 2007, 10:53

    whats the difference between the cams etc.. i know they have different degrees and stuff but whats that mean in terms of how it delivers power and acceleration etc...

    1 user thanked this post: craigant
20. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #20 1st November 2007, 10:57

    well the more duration means its got the valves open longer, and that also means that there will be more lift avaliable.
    
    so in short it means alot more air, etc.
    
    but you can't really go more than 708's, PH3's etc on standard intake and management.
21. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #21 1st November 2007, 12:19

    ill probally go with 708's but i was wondering what the difference would be between them and kent pt51 cams etc..
    
    if there the same sorta specs which car would be faster?
22. jeeves_101 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Weston-S-Mare Posts: 3713 Racing Bronze Mazda MX-5

    #22 1st November 2007, 12:24

    not much in it iirc, i think the kent and piper ones are just more expensive as you are paying for the name as well imo.