The good old T Bar?

1. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #1 20th September 2006, 10:41

   Now that I have some front struts again and everything seems to be ok I now unfortunately have to tackle the torsion bar.
   
   I’m under no illusions that this wont be straight forward and it’s almost guaranteed that the torsion bar is going to be seized. I’m under the impression that you only find out that the torsion bar is seized when trying to remove it.
   
   So my question is…….When I find out the torsion bar is seized how do you get around this problem and if its not possible can it just be put back nothing lost nothing gained style?
   
   It’s all about managing expectations when messing my Saxo.
   
   Any help would be appreciated and I’m aware that torsion bar questions are as common as “Vts into Vtr?” but I haven’t managed to find an answer to my particular question hence the need for this thread.
   
   Cheers
   
   Steve
2. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #2 20th September 2006, 10:56

   heat it up, dousing it in coke and hitting it hard are the best options. Finding someone with a good hammer technique is also a good move.
   
   If all else fails then you can put it back together, nothing lost or gained
3. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #3 20th September 2006, 11:08

   Sounds like a plan as long as it can all be restored to its previous setup If I fail to free it then I'm happy.
4. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #4 20th September 2006, 11:09

   yes, just a pain and a waste of time in that case. Mine was solid, we tried everything. In the end we used a bloke with big arms and a big hammer. Worked a treat
5. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #5 20th September 2006, 11:13

   I'll use my strenght within I'm sure that'll be enough.
   
   Have you given up on the BTB? *Not related issue, sorry*
6. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #6 20th September 2006, 11:15

   No comment
   
   I'm sure it isn't going to go for 210quid, so don't worry
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 20th September 2006, 11:40

   lol, i know of 3 other people watching that
   
   its the torx bolts which are a pain in the arse on the torsions bars imo, rusted/seized in than they just round off, GAY!!!!!!!
   
   btw dave, off topic but is your car 3 plug? what power and where (RPM) did you make when the car was mapped?
8. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #8 20th September 2006, 11:47

   Dont worry about staying on topic it went off topic a while ago its all abit random.
   
   I know there's going to be problems with the Torx can they be drilled/grinded off if needed or is that a bad idea?
   
   Just trying to have a back up plan for all the possible problems as I'm bound to come across them all.
   
   The BTB is going to go for stupid amounts.
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 20th September 2006, 11:49

   get them off any way you can, but get some new hex bolts or allen key bolts to go back in, TORX ARE GAY, its official!!!!!
10. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #10 20th September 2006, 12:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ets2k9 Dont worry about staying on topic it went off topic a while ago its all abit random. I know there's going to be problems with the Torx can they be drilled/grinded off if needed or is that a bad idea? Just trying to have a back up plan for all the possible problems as I'm bound to come across them all. The BTB is going to go for stupid amounts.

    Slicing a torx head with a blade screwdriver is an effective way to get them off!
    
    Rgarding the torsion bars. Soak in penetrative lubricant and if needs be use a blow torch to heat/expand the collar.
    
    Getting the stupid shape washers out and back in is also muchos fun!
11. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #11 20th September 2006, 12:02

    I'll bare the Gayness of the torx in mind when I'm attacking them with a hammer.
    
    Cheers lads.
    
    Steve
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 20th September 2006, 12:05

    be carefull though, the torx can turn you!!!!
13. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #13 20th September 2006, 12:09

    Maybe I shouldn't give them a good pounding then!!!
    
    They might get the wrong idea and before I know it I'm dancing to girls aloud at G.A.Y and trying to adopt some children*.
    
    
    
    
    
    *Please note I'm only joking and there's no need to take offense.
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 20th September 2006, 12:11

    hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm girls aloud......................................
15. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #15 20th September 2006, 12:19

    Mine is a 3 plug and it made 163hp at 7300rpm. Think that may be a touch quote-me-happy but I'm happy with it
16. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #16 20th September 2006, 12:19

    That BTB will make 400. If it make 500 mines up for sale
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 20th September 2006, 12:20

    lol, getting mine mapped next week i cant wait
18. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #18 20th September 2006, 12:55

    Cant you get a brand new btb for £500 or have they stopped making them?
19. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #19 20th September 2006, 13:14

    GMC still have some, im sure it was 590 + vat when i enquired a little while ago
20. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #20 20th September 2006, 13:14

    No more made as far as i know. Its 499+VAT+Delivery also
21. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #21 20th September 2006, 13:15

    no point in having a new one anyway, I have never heard of a single fault with any of them