BMC induction kits

1. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

   #1 23rd September 2006, 18:00

   Hey everyone. i was just wondering if anyone knew what piping you use with it. does the standard piping fit? or do you get different piping when you buy it for a saxo?? i got a vtr mk2.
   
   thanks a lot
   
   jamie
2. RAFkev Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Wirral Posts: 2198

   #2 23rd September 2006, 18:17

   hi mate,
   
   when u buy a bmc kit u get a pipe with it, however u will need 2 chop the pipe in half 2 put either side of the filter.
   
   the jubilee clips u get will do the job of joining the pipes.
   
   watch out for imitation kits tho. if it costs less than £150, they aint carbon fiber.
   
   the real one is well worth the price. happy fitting
3. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #3 23rd September 2006, 18:30

   less than £150 and looks legit to me
   CLICK ME BITCH
4. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

   #4 23rd September 2006, 18:35

   lol, cheers guys. i should be getting one of someone on here second hand. just wondering about pipes etc.
   thanks peeps :Y:
5. waldo Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2006 portsmouth United Kingdom (England) Posts: 121 2006 Corolla 1.8 VVTL-i Compressor

   #5 23rd September 2006, 19:07

   
   
   i used the reducer supplied and got some 60mm radiator hosing from http://www.hyphose.com/does the job cost about £15. use the original for the supply.
6. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #6 23rd September 2006, 19:10

   with samco hosing
7. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

   #7 23rd September 2006, 19:29

   cool. thanks a lot everyone.
   really helpfull!!! :Y:
8. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

   #8 23rd September 2006, 23:25

   cough rep cough
9. Mattvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 hinckley Posts: 2580

   #9 23rd September 2006, 23:28

   i have bought *carln*'s bmc and cant wait to collect it
10. Baynesey Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 canterbury, kent Posts: 1115 mk2 Vtr

    #10 23rd September 2006, 23:47

    they stock a bmc in halfords, is it any good,
    
    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...tegoryrn_52758
11. Mattvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 hinckley Posts: 2580

    #11 23rd September 2006, 23:55

    its an open filter,just like buying a k&n 57i kit or piperx kit,if open is what you want...
12. Baynesey Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 canterbury, kent Posts: 1115 mk2 Vtr

    #12 24th September 2006, 00:00

    to be honest im not sure about induction kits aint got a clue,
    
    all i no is some add a bit of noise and suck preformance, which is what i dont want,
    
    whats the best one around for a reasonable price?
    
    sorry for the thread hijack
13. Mattvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 hinckley Posts: 2580

    #13 24th September 2006, 00:17

    any open filter aint what you want then,e.g. k&n57i kit piperx or the one you have showed
    you want an enclosed filter (which wont lose performance)
    k&n pipercross and bmc all do enclosed filters
    k&n called typhoon iirc, pipercross are called viper kits and bmc are cda enclosed kits
    bmc is the only thing i would buy (and have)
14. Baynesey Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 canterbury, kent Posts: 1115 mk2 Vtr

    #14 24th September 2006, 00:21

    cheers mate
15. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

    #15 24th September 2006, 00:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by landy cough rep cough

    did i not give u rep?
    i thought i did?
16. landy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 south elmsall Posts: 5147 cammed vtr

    #16 24th September 2006, 09:30

    yeah cheers
17. Andy Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 in a house Posts: 1818 A Rover

    #17 21st November 2006, 17:07

    cheaper than 150
    
    http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?a=i&p=SXOCDA70130B
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 28th November 2006, 21:42

    will a vts bmc be the same as a bmc for a vtr? got a friend who i may be able to sell one to me.... but its on a vts.
19. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #19 28th November 2006, 22:41

    the halfords one isnt a open filter it just a cheaper material hence not carbon fibre but is still enclosed in plastic its called a DIA instead of CDA
20. mrorange2 Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Scunthorpe\Doncaster Posts: 1121 Fiesta ST & Saxo VTS

    #20 29th November 2006, 08:14

    I got mine from Larkspeed dont get the Halfords one its a cheap universal one.
21. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

    #21 29th November 2006, 08:30

    A BMC from a vts should fit ok, it may only be the piping that may need changing (to fit a vtr), but the filter element is universal.
    
    Whatever you do, definately get a BMC, ok they're not as loud as an open filter. But they won't take in hot engine bay heat like an open filter will. It's a direct cold air feed so will gain a little power.
22. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #22 29th November 2006, 08:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stevey will a vts bmc be the same as a bmc for a vtr? got a friend who i may be able to sell one to me.... but its on a vts.

    BMC CDA Filters are pretty universal. The CDA70-130 model fits the 1.4 8v, 1.6 8v (VTR) and the 1.6 16v (VTS)
    
    They will probably fit the 1.1s too but im not positive.
    
    The problem wouldnt be with the airbox though. It would just mean u need to source the correct reducer hose to go from the throttle body to the air filter
    
    EDIT: too slow, but there u go - 2 people have said the same thing
23. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #23 29th November 2006, 12:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mystic BMC CDA Filters are pretty universal. The CDA70-130 model fits the 1.4 8v, 1.6 8v (VTR) and the 1.6 16v (VTS) They will probably fit the 1.1s too but im not positive. The problem wouldnt be with the airbox though. It would just mean u need to source the correct reducer hose to go from the throttle body to the air filter EDIT: too slow, but there u go - 2 people have said the same thing

    where can i get some good cheap hosing?
24. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #24 29th November 2006, 12:24

    Try the filter first and see if it fits, iv never had a VTR but i cant imagine there being much difference.
    
    You want silicone hoses to go from the throttle body to the filter. If you know the measurements your after then eBay or some of the motorsposrt are a good place to start.
    
    There are alot of brands offering silicone hosing hopefully someone can post some links because i cant remember any off the top of my head. Samco and Demon-somthing spring to mind though.
25. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #25 29th November 2006, 12:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mystic Try the filter first and see if it fits, iv never had a VTR but i cant imagine there being much difference. You want silicone hoses to go from the throttle body to the filter. If you know the measurements your after then eBay or some of the motorsposrt are a good place to start. There are alot of brands offering silicone hosing hopefully someone can post some links because i cant remember any off the top of my head. Samco and Demon-somthing spring to mind though.

    cheers al check it out if and when i get it!
26. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #26 29th November 2006, 12:31

    I tried fitting the bmc from the vts to my vtr it was way to big and would not fit you would need a smaller battery for it to fit snuggly the vtr one went straight in not bother at all
27. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #27 29th November 2006, 12:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stiffler69 I tried fitting the bmc from the vts to my vtr it was way to big and would not fit you would need a smaller battery for it to fit snuggly the vtr one went straight in not bother at all

    i have a small battery anyway, its the same code when you look on the website.... no harm in trying....
28. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #28 29th November 2006, 13:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stiffler69 I tried fitting the bmc from the vts to my vtr it was way to big and would not fit you would need a smaller battery for it to fit snuggly the vtr one went straight in not bother at all

    I just checked this onthe bmc website. They list the CDA70-130 unit for 1.4 8v, VTR and VTS.
    
    The model name for the filter actually tells you a bit about the diametere of the engine outlet, and the overall size od the filter housing.
    
    CDAD1-D2
    
    
    
    So in the saxos case (CDA70-130) the filters should all be 130mm in diameter, which suggests the one you tried on wasnt acctually for a saxo stiffler, either that or your battery is much too big
29. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #29 29th November 2006, 13:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mystic I just checked this onthe bmc website. They list the CDA70-130 unit for 1.4 8v, VTR and VTS. The model name for the filter actually tells you a bit about the diametere of the engine outlet, and the overall size od the filter housing. CDAD1-D2 So in the saxos case (CDA70-130) the filters should all be 130mm in diameter, which suggests the one you tried on wasnt acctually for a saxo stiffler, either that or your battery is much too big

    some good research, same as what i found! top lad! rep for you!
30. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #30 29th November 2006, 14:01

    Yes i do beleive this could of been the case all it said on the filter was a code thing and 1.6 16v so i may of just assumed it was for a vts and may of been for a different car the shop changed it for me no problem and gave me the correct filter
31. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #31 29th November 2006, 18:20

    do i need a breather filter aswel? anybody got any pics of a bmc on a vtr please!
32. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #32 29th November 2006, 18:23

    Id like to see a pic aswell I have just joined the site myself and asked a question about Induction kits to so a pic would be a great massive HUGE help for me..........
33. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #33 29th November 2006, 18:26

    
34. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #34 29th November 2006, 18:31

    the expression CREAMED MY PANTS comes to mind lol
    
    looks nice if I get that im gonna get the pipe done red I think.
35. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #35 29th November 2006, 21:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djmartinp the expression CREAMED MY PANTS comes to mind lol looks nice if I get that im gonna get the pipe done red I think.

    dirty boy
36. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #36 29th November 2006, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr

    cant rep you already done so in the past, where you get your hoseing done?
37. FILVTR Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Manchester Posts: 440 VTR '52.

    #37 29th November 2006, 21:17

    Hesslevtr, what size hoses are they?
38. Jeetieye L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Loughborough and Oxford Posts: 77 '97 Saxo VTS

    #38 1st December 2006, 21:01

    Jus a quick mention, ny one interested, check out green cotton dynatwist kits as well- just another similar to viper n bmc!
    
    J