Panel Filter or Enclosed Kit

1. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #1 11th October 2006, 12:26

   Whats best a panel filter or and Enclosed Kit....
   I know that has probs been asked a load of times but could not find no real answer.
   I don't want an open kit! Just maybe change the filter in standard airbox. or is it worth holding out till i can afford an enclosed kit?
   Is there any power gains or noise gains from an aftermarket panel filter? and which is the best panel filter to go for.
   cheers
2. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #2 11th October 2006, 12:28

   I asked the same question a few months dude... but I'm was more concerned with better MPG.
   
   I opted for the panel filter - had to get mine custom made
3. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #3 11th October 2006, 12:30

   you running a diesel? am not too fussed about mpg as long as it does not go down too much.... did you see any gains from your panel filter?
4. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #4 11th October 2006, 12:35

   No i have a veryon.
   It's in my car... but i dont have my car so cant comment - will ask mr sayer later.
   
   To be honest its a two-way thing. better breathing will improve both hp and mpg depending on driving behaviour... both types will improve breathing.
   
   Panel filter is easier to fit. you dont have to start attacking the airbox and that. Think they are cheaper too.
   
   Not sure which one is better though.
5. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #5 11th October 2006, 12:36

   actually... the enclosed jobby will give a slightly better noise i think because the resonator box is removed.
6. sim69er South Wales Joined: Jan 2005 The Valley's init Posts: 3601 vtr mk2

   #6 11th October 2006, 13:25

   ive got a bmc panel filter really good value only cost me £35 thats from halfrauds deffo recomend it for a cheap mod next tho is deffo a proper bmc
7. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #7 11th October 2006, 13:34

   any gains from it? is it better than sticking a standard panel filter in?
8. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #8 11th October 2006, 14:14

   standard filter is made of paper... get clogged up easier - thus pants engine performance
   
   The replacement filter lasts ffffffffar longer - just need to clean it every now and again. And is made of different material (usually cotton) and offers less air flow restriction.
9. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #9 11th October 2006, 14:45

   I say go custom lol, I bought a Uni air filter and made a custom one using Fogs lights as air feeds... But your choice
10. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #10 11th October 2006, 14:57

    A panel filter will give slightly better performance but I feel it would be so little you woulnt notice a gain - but then again a panel filter only cost around £30ish pounds I think K&N, Green, Pipercross make replacement panel filters sim69er mention BMC make one so there is a quite a choice.
    
    But IMO save your money a geta enclosed cone in a scoop its the next best thing to a BMC cold air feed filter. Check on eBay as there are some bargin enclosed filters on there at the moment. Ok
11. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #11 11th October 2006, 17:39

    vts 16v do you know what your talking about?
12. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #12 12th October 2006, 13:57

    Y what bit of wat I said do you not agree with, Bullit?
    
    Didnt see you rushing into give any advice to Stevey :-P
13. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #13 12th October 2006, 16:20

    Panel fiter will give slightly better performance than standard, an induction kit will really improve things a bit more. BMC is ok
14. grantsp51 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2006 United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 468 51plate vtr

    #14 12th October 2006, 16:36

    dont know if its the same with saxos but on ma dads scooby theres no point on going to induction kit unless your over 380bhp yor just better replacing the the airbox filter.
    a changed my open pipercross to a bmc didnt feel much of a differnce in performance but there was less sound, but i got better mpg
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 12th October 2006, 16:38

    Im not really a 'believer' in induction kits.
    hence why i went panel.
    
    No one could offer me a reasoned scientific explanation of how induction kits offer any benefit. XCPT 4 A PHAT SOUND INNIT. and I cant see any benefits either.
    
    Panel filters are cheaper and easier to fit - job done.
16. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #16 12th October 2006, 18:21

    think al go get a panel filter..... cheers
17. VTS_16v_Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2006 Dartford Kent Posts: 5251 Pug 1007 HDi Sport (daily) / Abarth 500

    #17 17th October 2006, 09:43

    in ref to adsayer,
    
    Over the years nearly every car mag has done dyno and road tests on induction kits.
    
    Its true that a panel filter will offer better protection from heat and will get a good flow of air due to the fact its how the manufacture indented it to be. But it has been proven time and time that with a good supply of cold air an induction filter will allow the engine to rev more freely due to not being stuck inside a enclosed airbox there by increasing airflow and a slight increase in performance. The only problem is of course . . . Heat soak. Which is where a enclosed filter say a BMC or Ram air comes in because these offer the best of both worlds:
    
    1st a larger surface are due the filter being cone shaped and not flat
    2nd the filter is protected from the heat and feed by cold air direct from where ever.
    
    These are the nearest things to a race car cold air box setup you can buy
18. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

    #18 17th October 2006, 09:45

    Enclosed