Dimma Grille help

1. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #1 1st November 2006, 17:16

   Received my Dimma grille today :thumbup:
   
   Went straight to Halfrauds to get toys. Can someone confirm i'm doing this right for peace of mind please? this is my first proper painting job!
   
   Bought assorted abrasive papers. 240. 600. 800 and 1200
   
   Red plastic primer
   
   Wicked red paint
   
   Clear Lacquer
   
   I rubbed the (second hand) grille down with 600 (dry) 800 (wet) then 1200 (wet) then dry with the 1200 and applied my primer. looks ok so far.
   
   I assume i wait for the primer to dry, rub it down with 1200 again. apply another coat of primer then leave for 24 hours? and is it relatively the same process with the paint and lacquer?
   
   Any help will be greatly appreciated
   
   Rep given
2. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #2 1st November 2006, 17:54

   yes just another coat of primer then paint, dont rush it just build up the layers, then leave to dry fo a few days, sand the paint with the finest paper you have, but do it wet then put your laquer on
   
   might seem weird sandind paint but gives you a better finish
   
   hope it works out well mate and get some prgress pics up in your thread
3. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #3 1st November 2006, 18:02

   so, when i before i apply the lacquer i should still rub it down with a very fine wet paper? your just a wealth of jhelp u!
4. marc666 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2005 Builth Wells Posts: 2757 Rs172 106 XSI

   #4 1st November 2006, 18:25

   dont bother rubbing it down before lacquering. build up your primer, then flat it down with 800 then 1200 until its smooth and feels right, dust on your red paint wait for it to start to go off before dusting on another coat (dusting it on is safer, less likely to get a run lol), continue this until its all covered and you cant see any primer. wait for it to dry then apply lacquer
5. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #5 1st November 2006, 18:47

   This is what it looks like just after primer, that dried very smooth, so i applied another light coat and that will dry soon. I'm sure predator VTr said rub it down before applying lacquer, which is correct?
   
   
   
   
6. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #6 1st November 2006, 18:48

   well just pros actually rub the paint down before applying laquer, gives a nice finish, you just need to do it ever so lightly, should actually say this on the spray cans, think its on the laquer one or paint one :
7. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #7 1st November 2006, 18:49

   also are they light brows ?????
8. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #8 1st November 2006, 18:53

   Ok, i guess i'm doing it right, if i mess it up ill get my mate to do it, he painted my car after the crash! lol. yeah they are mate, couple of quid on Ebay, thought i myt give it a bash, if they look gay i'll punt them on! lol
9. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #9 1st November 2006, 18:55

   yeah might get slated but its up to you, personally i think there tacky
10. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #10 1st November 2006, 18:57

    Your right mate, says it on the lacquer tin!!! will do it that way very carefully, QUOTE "use 1200 grit wet and dry paper and plenty of water to achieve a matt surface. Removal of the glossy paint surface is necessary to produce the correct lacquered finish" Straight from the horses mouth, or halfrauds can as it were
11. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #11 1st November 2006, 18:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yeah might get slated but its up to you, personally i think there tacky

    gee thanks! I'll take pics and let the entire community rip the shit out of me before i realise its homosexual!
    
    If you thinks thats bad u shud see my VTR brakelight cover
12. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #12 1st November 2006, 19:01

    vtr brakelight cover
    
    well i have one so we can both get slated, but personally i like it : :
13. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #13 1st November 2006, 22:24

    yay!!!! We could form a gang lol
14. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #14 1st November 2006, 23:01

    lol we wil lhave to eh :
    
    so hows the paintsing coming on
15. stevossaxo Established Member Joined: Mar 2005 Surrey United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2299 Citroen Saxo Furio

    #15 2nd November 2006, 00:22

    i personally would have used a grey primer buddy
16. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #16 2nd November 2006, 12:59

    but its red paint going on, surely then a red primer is used? The last coat of primer has been left to dry overnight, in a couple of hours i will begine the painting process
17. ChrisJ Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 Widnes United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3517 Saxo furio

    #17 2nd November 2006, 16:02

    You are supposed to use grey primer with every colour EXCEPT red, you are supposed to use RED primer for RED.
18. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #18 2nd November 2006, 16:04

    thank you Chris, i thought i was doing it right, just put my first coat of paint on! Looking gooooood
19. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #19 2nd November 2006, 18:03

    Ok need a bit advice now, i've done two coats of paint and some areas are smooth, some are rough. and its a bit "orange peel" in areas. do i just rub it down again an do another coat etc? not wure how to get it as near perfect as possible without a proper spray gun and booth etc
20. VTSKris Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Wigan United Kingdom (England) Posts: 764

    #20 2nd November 2006, 18:40

    By sounds of it you have put 2 much paint on in 1 go. I would wet an dry it till smooth then apply a few more layers of paint and use 1200 (wet) inbetween. Im no expert but when i have sprayed i have always used 1200 inbetween layers for the last few and always got a great finnish.
    
    Hope this helps
21. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

    #21 2nd November 2006, 18:46

    yeah been doing that, maybe try and be less liberal with the paint, its so hard to get the right amount of pressure on lol. Cheers lads