Is Nitrous Cheating?

  1. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #1
    Is Nitrous Oxide 'cheating?' i don't think it is but this should make an interesting topic!
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Feb 2006 140 Grime St. Posts: 15163 Panamera
    #2
    no....
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Cardiff Posts: 296 Volvo V70 2.5T 193BHP, Black Vauxhall Corsa (C) 1.
    #3
    No, its just another form of achieving better combustion.
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #4
    yes

    explained in other thread
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jun 2004 Newtowntowntowntowntown Posts: 17562 Civic Type R EP3
    #5
    Ask any racer it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile.....winning is winning
  6. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #6
    I'll have nitrous when the engines running properly and I'm not a cheat!

    It's just another way of complimenting the other mods
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #7
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.

    The cheating bastards.
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.

    The cheating bastards.

    finally someone who agrees
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #9
    Quote:
    finally someone who agrees
    We agree on a lots of things lately Mr Hessle.
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    We agree on a lots of things lately Mr Hessle.
    sir hessle if you dont mind

    well if you talk sense il agree if not i dont

    and your doing well
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #11
    Why thank you Sir Hessle, I'll try to keep up the good work now that I have your blessing.
  12. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.

    The cheating bastards.

    totally agree
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #13
    Yes it bloody is.
  14. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #14
    i say no, claiming masive power figures with bucket loads of gas is a bit shit but having it there to aid your power on the road is not a problem
    but then ive got a 150bhp direct port kit
  15. Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Salisbury Posts: 1118 Saxo VTR full Janspeed exhuast (4-2
    #15
    yes its cheating, also you have to re fill it when you use it. So you dont continually have that 1000bhp on tap. Cheating yes, but cool none the less to boost your 300 bhp car to some rediculour power.
  16. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #16
    So what you guys are saying is that you use your cars full power all the time???

    Most of the time your car is putting out about 30-40 bhp for normal driving.

    Why is No2 cheating??? Elaborate
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #17
    its been covered in this thread and the 1 last week
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6
    #18
    I don't think it is.

    In Drag Racing, you are allowed 3 different types of power adder: Turbo, Supercharger or Nitrous.

    Nitrous is cheaper than the others.

    Again if you use it with a turbo, it cools down the inlet charge even more.

    People are gonna be saying that water injection is cheating next.
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #19
    I'd rather have a turbo or Supercharger over nitrous any day of the week.
  20. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    I'd rather have a turbo or Supercharger over nitrous any day of the week.
    Same but on a Drag car or bike, Nitrous would be my choice.
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #21
    Nah dont think it is really, we can all do it if we want.

    Agree its just another mod...
  22. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #22
    so if i run the ax with turbo NOS and WI i would be classed as a cheat?
  23. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #23
    Cheating at what though?
  24. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #24
    It's just like saying "Is adding an exhaust or air filter cheating, or stripping out your car to make it faster cheating???"

    They are all mods which are designed to make our cars go faster!
  25. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #25
    Quote:
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.
    To clarify my take on things.... I believe that its "cheating" for the above reason/sitution.

    Its the temporary nature of it that I find to be the "cheating" aspect of it.
  26. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxo180 View Post
    It's just like saying "Is adding an exhaust or air filter cheating, or stripping out your car to make it faster cheating???"

    They are all mods which are designed to make our cars go faster!
    agreed, i think its just another mod, although i do agree with ets2k9's point, when people claim silly amounts of power like saying i have a 300bhp saxo when really you have a 15obhp saxo and are packing a 150 shot in the back seat!
  27. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Feb 2006 140 Grime St. Posts: 15163 Panamera
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.

    The cheating bastards.
    in that circumstance i agree, but thats the drivers fault for bigging his car up not the actual NOS itself...
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R
    #28
    EDIT* I cant be arsed anymore.
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    EDIT* I cant be arsed anymore.
    agreed
  30. Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.
    #30
    isnt it just like putting raceing fuel in instead of normal petrol tho??? or haveing a variable boost system for track or race days??
  31. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6
    #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SunderZ View Post
    isnt it just like putting raceing fuel in instead of normal petrol tho??? or haveing a variable boost system for track or race days??
    Thats a bloody good point!

    Some people have 2 boost stage by the flick of a switch.

    My mums calibra has a winter mode and a sports mode on her auto.

    But I do agree with ets2k9 about the 1000bhp thing with the gas on.
  32. Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2005 blackpool United Kingdom (England) Posts: 457
    #32
    no its not cheating i do agree with some of the points ie saying that you got a 1000bhp car but if it classed as cheating then so is every other mod that you put on your car next people will be saying that it cheating by putting v power in instead of 97 ron petrol.
  33. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Solihull Posts: 798 RX8 231
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ets2k9 View Post
    I'm saying yes, I feel cheated when someone claims they have a 1000bhp car then half of that is made up of nitrous, which really means the car is only a 1000bhp for around a 2 minutes if he's turned it on.

    The cheating bastards.
    spot on
  34. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #34
    I agree with you in that sense mate but consider this.

    When the BHP is stated on any car this is always the max BHP at a given point. We are all told the Saxo VTS is 120bhp for example, yes it is 120BHP but only at a certain band of the rev range. Same goes for Torque I guess.

    True NOS may only achieve 1000bhp for a few seconds but isnt that the same kind of theory for all cars power figures. A VTS isnt 120bhp from 0rpm to 7250rpm if you know what I mean.

    Power in that sense is dependant on your power curve, nicer the curve the more even the power.

    Sorry to go but just thought it made sense.