rev limiter on a vts

1. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

   #1 10th November 2006, 07:38

   i was wondering when a rev limiter should cut in ? i have read some where that a chip changes the limit of red line to 7200?
   but the thing is i wanted to see where mine was @ so got the car nice and warn did every thing propally not like some idiot that rage the fuck out there motors and hi the rev limit in 3rd and it vent to 7500 is this right ?
   
   cheers steve
2. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #2 10th November 2006, 07:54

   The vts should rev to about 7250 if I remember rightly.
3. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

   #3 10th November 2006, 08:23

   about 7,700 mine is
4. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #4 10th November 2006, 09:07

   7250 or apparently some were 7400
5. R4T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4630

   #5 10th November 2006, 11:20

   7700rpm thats a hell of a rev limit for a saxo!!
6. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #6 10th November 2006, 11:46

   lol Vtr only 6k,
7. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #7 10th November 2006, 12:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by wickedsaxo 7700rpm thats a hell of a rev limit for a saxo!!

   theres some well in the 8k range
8. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #8 10th November 2006, 12:06

   7850 for me Needle goes past eight though to make me look fucking great
9. R4T Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4630

   #9 10th November 2006, 12:18

   fook sake your going into vtec territory!
10. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #10 10th November 2006, 12:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wickedsaxo fook sake your going into vtec territory!

    V-Tec is for homos who can't take a bit of a lumpy idle
11. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #11 10th November 2006, 12:22

    agreed with campdavid -im loving the lumpy idle haha
12. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #12 10th November 2006, 12:54

    Standard vts should be 7250. Mine soft cuts at 7850 as el campo's.
    
    Never need to take it there though unlesss you aer doing a 0-60 run.
    
    Changing at about 7k keeps it nicely in the power band
13. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #13 10th November 2006, 13:13

    standard vtr is just over 6k isnt it
14. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #14 10th November 2006, 15:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gavcollier standard vtr is just over 6k isnt it

    Limited to 6250 from the factory. Can derestrict them pretty easily though
15. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #15 10th November 2006, 15:33

    yea but u said a standard vtr is 7250 in the above post
16. Johnno Established Member Joined: May 2006 South Wales Posts: 2404 Astra 1.8 Sport

    #16 10th November 2006, 15:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Limited to 6250 from the factory. Can derestrict them pretty easily though

    how????
17. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #17 10th November 2006, 16:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gavcollier yea but u said a standard vts is 7250 in the above post

    Edited! Should have said vts!
    
    Superchips can supply a chip which will raise the rev limit to a predetermined level. That way you can do 60 in 2nd gear!
18. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #18 10th November 2006, 16:12

    look at jonhno always on the look for new ideas lol
19. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #19 10th November 2006, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Superchips can supply a chip which will raise the rev limit to a predetermined level. That way you can do 60 in 2nd gear!

    superchips suck balls. Fact.
    best way to increase the limiter is by remapping the standard ecu, although people seem to be forgetting that an increased rev limit is only required when the cam fitted makes peak power beyond the standard rev limit ie catcam 708's etc
20. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #20 10th November 2006, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean superchips suck balls. Fact. best way to increase the limiter is by remapping the standard ecu, although people seem to be forgetting that an increased rev limit is only required when the cam fitted makes peak power beyond the standard rev limit ie catcam 708's etc

    Very true, also worth noting that as revs go up forces do exponentially. I only unleash the full 8k when absolutely vital, like when I'm racing Corsas in the town centre
21. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #21 10th November 2006, 17:24

    Quote:

    Very true, also worth noting that as revs go up forces do exponentially. I only unleash the full 8k when absolutely vital, like when I'm racing Corsas in the town centre

    Bull fighter and rude boy in one
22. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #22 10th November 2006, 17:26

    ok had another little go on the way home nice empty road so i got it to about 7800 strange
    i was only asking tbo i never really rag it as by time i get to work the cars not even warm its only a few miles to work
23. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #23 10th November 2006, 18:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CampDavid V-Tec is for homos who can't take a bit of a lumpy idle

    every body loves a lumpy idle mine is terrible
24. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #24 10th November 2006, 18:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lavo-vts every body loves a lumpy idle mine is terrible

    
    mines fine idles sweet as
25. antiks Newbie Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 21 vts pocket rocket

    #25 10th November 2006, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Edited! Should have said vts! Superchips can supply a chip which will raise the rev limit to a predetermined level. That way you can do 60 in 2nd gear!

    not had my vts long but got car up to temp to see what it was like on top end rev's.
    i did'nt notice limiter (prob not enough rev's) but did do 60 in 2nd gear!
    
    is this usual or not?
26. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #26 10th November 2006, 18:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveos_vts mines fine idles sweet as

    wish mine did. my car ha dcustom cams made from a company called power zone about 5 years ago think there theory was make them raw as fook
27. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #27 10th November 2006, 18:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by antiks not had my vts long but got car up to temp to see what it was like on top end rev's. i did'nt notice limiter (prob not enough rev's) but did do 60 in 2nd gear! is this usual or not?

    my little baby does 75 in second that sound beter to me
28. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #28 10th November 2006, 18:45

    a vts will hit 60 in second, no other saxo as standard can. FACT.
29. Saxo-Slag Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Stockport, Manchester Posts: 5911 Vtr @ 123bhp R.I.P VTS

    #29 10th November 2006, 18:53

    Lol the old 60 in second again
30. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #30 10th November 2006, 19:12

    scott is that a saved sentence, i swear ive seen that before, lol
31. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #31 10th November 2006, 21:52

    70 in second with a vtr box fact
32. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #32 11th November 2006, 08:23

    A VTS engine will probably do 70mph in second with a VTR box. I wouldn't know though, as a VTR box on a VTS is a pap idea unless you need to do over 150mph. Please remember that both your speedo and rev counter over read, your rev limiter doesn't, ergo 7800 out of a standard VTS won't happen, but it will show on the rev counter
33. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #33 11th November 2006, 09:04

    my vtr could do 60 in 2nd,thats wot my clocks read.i know most of the time the clocks are out but still,it looked good at the time
    plus i got a vts now with my vtr gear box and its quick ,very impressed,no speeddo at the moment tho
34. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

    #34 11th November 2006, 10:58

    vts on 195/45 tyres on limit in second is 69.3MPH
35. SteVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 carlisle United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2934 106 GTi

    #35 11th November 2006, 14:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gavcollier plus i got a vts now with my vtr gear box and its quick ,very impressed,no speeddo at the moment tho

    
    thats what i used to think when i still had the vtr box in after the engine conversion but it wasnt that quick you could get silly speed in 5th though i find mine better with the vts box in
36. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #36 11th November 2006, 14:55

    im happy with the vtr box atm,i want to get my speedo sorted tho,ill let u kno
37. Japman Saxperience Addict Joined: May 2006 Costa del Wales Posts: 12393 Spam Wagon

    #37 11th November 2006, 14:58

    when you say silly speed how much was that(not on public roads ofcourse
38. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #38 11th November 2006, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Superchips can supply a chip which will raise the rev limit to a predetermined level. That way you can do 60 in 2nd gear!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean superchips suck balls. Fact. best way to increase the limiter is by remapping the standard ecu, although people seem to be forgetting that an increased rev limit is only required when the cam fitted makes peak power beyond the standard rev limit ie catcam 708's etc

    Was just giving one quick and easy example.
    
    I would always remap or use stand alone but they are quite often out of the price range and actual needs of a lot of people
39. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #39 11th November 2006, 22:20

    standard is 7250, mine is 7850.
    
    superchips cant raise RPM limit on 3 plug ecu vts'