Magnex Exhaust + De-cat

1. Mr_VTS-16v Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 North West, UK Posts: 477 Citroen Saxo VTS 16v

   #1 10th November 2006, 20:46

   Hey Ppl,
   
   I have bought the above and am just wondering how much bhp would i be looking at from this on my 98 saxo VTS ? I have a induction kit as well.
   
   Regards,
   Ryan
2. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #2 10th November 2006, 20:52

   I couldn't put a figure on it but it'll be loads more responsive and will work well with any others mods you may have planned.
   
   Its a good setup I have one on the way
3. K-R Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Godmanchester Posts: 165

   #3 10th November 2006, 20:58

   depends what induction kit you got... really
4. Mr_VTS-16v Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 North West, UK Posts: 477 Citroen Saxo VTS 16v

   #4 10th November 2006, 22:02

   a k&n, it will prob add 3-5 bhp.
5. Mr_VTS-16v Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 North West, UK Posts: 477 Citroen Saxo VTS 16v

   #5 11th November 2006, 09:08

   Can any one help me ??
6. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #6 11th November 2006, 09:12

   Say about 130bhp but thats quite generous for an exhaust and filter.
7. beardy Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 isle of wight Posts: 761 Impreza STI - Saxo GTI

   #7 11th November 2006, 10:10

   add a 4-2-1 or 4-1 to ur list and you will make the figures evan higher!
8. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #8 11th November 2006, 10:18

   filter wont make much difference in the slightest. In your mind it may feel like 5bhp but probably not.
   A magnex with a decat may free up a couple of bhp. But nothing to ring Max Power about.
   
   Plus remember the fact that the chances of your car being exactly 120bhp as it stands now are slim. Your talking still near the 120bhp mark.
   
   Damn dont I sound negative, sorry mate! Tis the true though.
9. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

   #9 11th November 2006, 10:29

   I think your right though Rushy the power comes with other mods but it will a difference never the less.
   
   All this talk of filters adding 10bhp etc is just marketing.
10. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #10 11th November 2006, 10:35

    I dont know if im right really Steve lol just trying to be realistic lol.
    
    I think power from your mods only come when the car is remapped. Only then are you making your uprated exhaust and filter opperate at there best.
    
    Think about it, you can install a new graphics card into a PC, but you have to install the drivers first before it will run properly.
    
    I mentioned a while ago I blasted another VTS, this was only due to the fact my car must of been way lighter than his VTS (all the crap ive removed and lighter wheels). Nothing to do with the mods on either car whatever they were!
    
    People may disagree which is fair enough. But it make sense when you think about it.
11. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #11 11th November 2006, 10:37

    I agree with you.
    
    I thought I had a good setup but it turns out my fuelling let me down, no one ever mentions things like that when there adding 5 or 10bhp filters onto a ten year old car.
12. Mr_VTS-16v Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 North West, UK Posts: 477 Citroen Saxo VTS 16v

    #12 11th November 2006, 17:47

    Rushy_23 - I never said it would get 5bhp, this is what i was told from where i purchased it, i am expecting 2 maybe 3 at a push.
    
    I guess i know what you mean, but i thought a de-cat and straight through exhaust will free up alot more bhp than 2 or 3 ?? I got 15bhp +/- when i did it on my focus, but i guess this varies depending on the car + mods ?? I thought it would be better than that tho !
    
    Any other guesses as to figures then ? 122/125/128/130/135 + ??
    
    Rye
13. K-R Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2006 Godmanchester Posts: 165

    #13 11th November 2006, 17:51

    If its an open filter... rather than enclosed its probs taking in more hot air that wont help
14. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

    #14 11th November 2006, 18:14

    The k&n will do next to nothing apart from make it sound nicer, but could make you lose power as its open and not enclosed.
    
    The exhaust and de-cat expect about 3-5 at the very most.
15. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #15 11th November 2006, 18:26

    Quote:

    Rushy_23 - I never said it would get 5bhp

    Sorry mate didnt want it to sound like that. Its possible to of freed up about 5bhp. But you never know tbh. We could all say its running 125bhp, but its possible thats its slightly more or a lot less due to loss of bhp.
    
    Should feel nicer with the mods though.
16. Mr_VTS-16v Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2006 North West, UK Posts: 477 Citroen Saxo VTS 16v

    #16 11th November 2006, 19:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 Sorry mate didnt want it to sound like that.

    No worries matey.
    
    Well i hope so, cant wait to get it all fitted. Any ideas as to what i can put on then to get more bhp.. wanna get around the 140 mark, but not too expensive lol.
    
    Rye
17. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #17 11th November 2006, 19:20

    Filter
    Exhuast (inc decat)
    Manifold
    
    Next would most likely be headwork, or cams + remap. Either way you look at it its going to cost a bit.