206 gti carriers REP WILL BE GIVEN

1. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

   #1 17th November 2006, 17:40

   ok people just about to purchase a set of 206 gti callipers but they dont come with the carriers will my vts 2003 carriers fit the calipers quick reply please
2. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

   #2 17th November 2006, 17:43

   Hello mate, Pretty sure they do fit as I was told they would fit my VTR as I was going to get a set before I blew the diff in my gearbox up! Good Luck dude!
3. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

   #3 17th November 2006, 17:44

   thanks but need a definate please people
   
   rep given
4. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #4 17th November 2006, 17:58

   anyone? + bump
5. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

   #5 17th November 2006, 18:01

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...o+206+carriers
   
   Not sure if that helps at all?
6. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

   #6 17th November 2006, 18:18

   not really i know what they are but need to know if they will fit iv tryed quickly searching but can find any thing conclusive come on some 1 must know
7. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

   #7 17th November 2006, 18:19

   Well, they mount with two 17mm bolts (if my memorey serves me right..) and appear to be identicle to a saxo, id be 85% sure, but nothing conclusive Im afraid!
8. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

   #8 17th November 2006, 22:15

   come on some 1 must know 42 peoplehave look at the tread and no 1 knows!!
   
   please people
9. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #9 17th November 2006, 23:39

   instinctively i would say no due to difference in size of calipers, distance from hub etc...
   
   But thats only instinct i cant say for sure because i have never tried them
10. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #10 18th November 2006, 10:13

    cheers scott i understand what you saying
11. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #11 18th November 2006, 10:54

    i think a lot of you are getting confused over what teh carriers are. they are the main part of the calipers. if you dont get the carriers with your brakes then you only get half a brake. and no way would vts carriers fit gti brakes. but the gti brakes will fit a vts hub. post a pic of the brakes in question if you are unsure.
12. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #12 18th November 2006, 11:01

    
    
    
    
    THATS CORRECT ?
13. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #13 18th November 2006, 11:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts i think a lot of you are getting confused over what teh carriers are. they are the main part of the calipers. if you dont get the carriers with your brakes then you only get half a brake. and no way would vts carriers fit gti brakes. but the gti brakes will fit a vts hub. post a pic of the brakes in question if you are unsure.

    
    I agree...
    
    Are the 206GTi brake pads bigger than standard saxo pads? Im guessing they are?
    
    If the pads are bigger, that means the caliper is too.
    
    If the caliper is bigger, then it wont fit the carrier properly.
    
    I have no direct knowledge of 206 calipers on a saxo, but I would have thought you'd need the full setup... ie caliper and carrier. This would then bolt onto the saxo hub, via the standard fixing arrangement.
    
    Dodgy picture showing carrier and caliper of vts setup.
14. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #14 18th November 2006, 11:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveos_vts THATS CORRECT ?

    
    Yes, thats correct... but the pads fit exactly into the carrier... ie, they are tight upto the edges. How are you going to fit a larger pad in there?
    
    If the pads arent larger, then what is the benefit? piston size could be marginally bigger, but if pad area (friction area) isnt bigger, then no benefit.
    
    Im pretty sure the 206 setup is larger than saxo.. hence shouldnt fit the saxo carriers. IMO.
15. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #15 18th November 2006, 11:06

    simo i hate to be the bearer of bad news but you bolted your caliper on up side down... must of been haveing a long day ....
    
    reading your post makes sence now lol the pads would be bigger making the carriers too small ha ha ha what a doughnut cheers people
16. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

    #16 18th November 2006, 17:10

    What Soulless is selling is the Caliper, carriers and pads with 4 mounting bolots. I should know as I have seen them!
    
    The whole reason of putting the 206gti (Off a gran tourismo 206-the Ltd edition) brake setup on (Altho no discs are included) is to uprate your front brakes for a bigger setup with better stopping power...
17. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #17 18th November 2006, 18:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaggers_saxvtr What Soulless is selling is the Caliper, carriers and pads with 4 mounting bolots. I should know as I have seen them! The whole reason of putting the 206gti (Off a gran tourismo 206-the Ltd edition) brake setup on (Altho no discs are included) is to uprate your front brakes for a bigger setup with better stopping power...

    hes told me there is no carriers !??!
18. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #18 19th November 2006, 15:08

    i also said im the most impractical person in the whole wide world ;P
19. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

    #19 19th November 2006, 15:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveos_vts hes told me there is no carriers !??!

    Well he doesnt know what he's got then!! lol.
    
    Agree with Soulless' comment being the most impractical person int he world...only kidding mate
20. steveos_vts Established Member Joined: Apr 2004 Reading Posts: 1044 VTS, 16V, GT,VTS,GTI,SCOOBY,GTI

    #20 19th November 2006, 17:08

    o dear soulless got them pictures for me yet??
21. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #21 21st November 2006, 13:44

    they will fit straight on mate, all you need to do is fit a few washers behind each bolt that holds the calipers on (2 on each side) or get some full thread bolts the same pitch and length as the standard vtr/vts ones. this is because the standard vtr/vts ones have a shoulder on them at the to of the stud.
    
    I have 206 gti 180 discs and calipers on my 1998 vtr and they went straight on without any need of grinding at all, like i said the only problem i had was that the standard studs bottomd out and left the caliper a tad slack, i fitted 2 washers on each stud and they were fine. they withstood all the hammering i gave them on the track days i did.
    i took the easy option with the washers lol to eager to get the setup on the car.
    
    the standard 206 gti discs and calipers will fit onto the car and behind your standard 14" vtr alloy, the 206 gti 180 and 306 gti-6 setups need 15" or bigger alloys.
    
    hope that helps mate, any probs just PM me
22. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #22 21st November 2006, 13:48

    you will need the whole setup from the 206 gti mate. i wouldnt try and mix n match.
    
    i can get 306 gti-6 setups for a good price if you are interested? probs better off getting a full setup for the price it will cost you to buy bits and bobs.
    bigger discs, calipers and pads works wonders on a light saxo
23. shaggers_saxvtr Established Member Joined: May 2006 Ashford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1443 Saxo VTR/S, Mk1 Cortina, Jaguar XJS Convertible et

    #23 21st November 2006, 16:17

    As stated the 206 GT model brake setup will fit, Soulless has everything needed apart from discs (carriers, calipers, bolts and pads are included) and you can get a decent pair of them for a good price too, from most places.