Manifold=more power?

1. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

   #1 18th November 2006, 20:55

   Would you get a noticeable power gain from a manifold and which one would you recommend?
2. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #2 18th November 2006, 20:59

   superchipped?
   
   raceland 4-2-1 manifold
3. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

   #3 18th November 2006, 21:10

   www.superchips.co.uk
   www.sanspeed.co.uk
4. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #4 18th November 2006, 22:08

   gmc 4-1
   
   take that filter off and get an enclosed one
   
   decat is a simple mod only takes 20mins if that to swap mot time
5. cammedvtr Established Member Joined: Mar 2005 hull United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1518 saxo vtr

   #5 19th November 2006, 10:51

   to be honest mate i agree with paul, get a decat one and just swap it for the mot...But I wouldnt go and buy a enclosed filter, until you have tried one on your car and think its worth the extra money.... maybe try a mates first, because there is no proven theory there better for power gains, just a lot of talk....
   
   Up to you thou mate
6. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

   #6 19th November 2006, 13:20

   Does the de-cat need to be the same width as the cat-back system?
7. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

   #7 19th November 2006, 13:30

   A de-cat will fit, dont ask me the measurements of it lol but i can garentee it will fit, it uses an 'O' clamp to join onto your Piper and 2 bolts for manifold side..
8. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

   #8 19th November 2006, 13:35

   How much work is it to fit the manifold?
   
   Phipps Nice motor. Plain and simple with nice engine mods. Its the way!
9. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #9 19th November 2006, 13:46

   get rid of the chip mate, all they do is advacne the ignition timing and aren't very accurate either. its more guess work with superchips than remapping.
10. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #10 19th November 2006, 13:48

    if you look on the forum you will see loads of threads about manifolds and the effects of them, HERES ONE<<Click and take a look!
11. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #11 19th November 2006, 13:53

    Superchips aren't as bad as most people actually make them out to be, there are other, some may say better, options. But the superchip helps to eliminate annoying traits such as hesitation and poor throttle response, that can occur on computer-controlled cars, are eliminated making the car more lively and responsive. This makes in-town driving a pleasure, requiring less gear changing with a smooth and progressive engine response.
12. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #12 19th November 2006, 13:59

    S34MER Thanks for that, some well good stuff on that thread. Definately helpful. From the general responses Im guessin a 4-2-1 is in order...
    
    williamsvts Theres better acceleration when I put my foot right down but that could just be the exhaust maybe?
13. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #13 19th November 2006, 14:01

    deffo a 4-2-1 for what your wanting imo!
14. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #14 19th November 2006, 14:06

    Just been looking on GMCs website, seems they only do 4-1 manifolds. Any suggestions?
15. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #15 19th November 2006, 14:07

    GMC do a 4-2-1 aswell deffo!.... well they 'did' do one anyway!
16. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #16 19th November 2006, 14:13

    Maybe Im just bein blind
17. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #17 19th November 2006, 14:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by run_hard Ill just ring em up tomorrow and ask!

    yeah, best bet i think matey!
18. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #18 19th November 2006, 23:23

    the raceland ones are significantly cheaper and people get good gains from them too.
19. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

    #19 19th November 2006, 23:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing the raceland ones are significantly cheaper and people get good gains from them too.

    
    i have got a raceland plus i heat wrapped it but i didnt feel any difference from my standard manifold when after i fitted it
20. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #20 19th November 2006, 23:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER GMC do a 4-2-1 aswell deffo!.... well they 'did' do one anyway!

    iv never known gmc todo a 4-2-1 as if you raed on there site it explains all the diffrences between 4-2-1 and 4-1
21. Ax_beefy Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Cannock Posts: 973 Citroen AX VTS

    #21 20th November 2006, 00:00

    They willd do both if you ask... and if you want to pay... infact they'll probably do anything you want for the right price
22. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #22 20th November 2006, 09:48

    someone mentioned Racelands. Any good? What about Cituning?
23. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #23 20th November 2006, 10:04

    
    
    Superchips aren't as bad as most people actually make them out to be, there are other, some may say better, options. But the superchip helps to eliminate annoying traits such as hesitation and poor throttle response, that can occur on computer-controlled cars, are eliminated making the car more lively and responsive. This makes in-town driving a pleasure, requiring less gear changing with a smooth and progressive engine response.]
    
    i have had a superchip before and they are bollocks, a complete waste of money. they dont give less gearchanges either, how can they do that??
    if you get anything done to your ecu wait till you get cams and then get it mapped properly.
24. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #24 20th November 2006, 10:12

    Im kinda in agreement with Williams on the Superchip thing
25. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #25 20th November 2006, 10:50

    it isnt even a chip mate. its downloaded via the diagnostics port.
26. run_hard L-plater Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 85

    #26 20th November 2006, 11:48

    :clap: You can still have the cars ECU reset
27. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #27 20th November 2006, 11:52

    that wont put it back to standard though. you will need a standard map downloaded back onto it.