4-2-1 manifolds group buy

22nd November 2006, 00:23

Right then guys 4-2-1 manifolds for sale for both 8v and 16v's £130 delivered need 4 or more orders to get this price, anyone interested?

post on here if you want in guys and i will forward a copy of the thread to the organiser!

Cheers

Oli

22nd November 2006, 00:31

Count me in I want one for my MK1 VTR.

22nd November 2006, 00:37

We got them cheaper.

http://www.quikpugclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2748

22nd November 2006, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugDan

We got them cheaper.

http://www.quikpugclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2748

check the other thread pug man that link don't work, you have to be logged in! stop spamming the thread, post in the other one, no need to post in both! if you dont want one don't post simple as that!!

lol only jokin mate

22nd November 2006, 01:05

Some more info would be helpful dude..

Like what car is it for? mark 1 or mark 2? as there both different manifolds iirc...
What make are they?
Pics?..

Looking for one myself but i arn't buying any cheap tat

22nd November 2006, 01:13

they are Raceland 4-2-1 manifolds, for both VTR's and VTS' ust pm'd him now asking if they are for mk1 or mk2, didn't know there was a difference tbh!

pics

22nd November 2006, 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER

they are Raceland 4-2-1 manifolds, for both VTR's and VTS' ust pm'd him now asking if they are for mk1 or mk2, didn't know there was a difference tbh!

Well i know the standard mark 1 and mark 2 manifolds are different... so im guessing the aftermarket ones will be different as well (just a guess

).. I'll probally be wrong as i am with most things but i like to know the details lol

22nd November 2006, 01:18

yeah thats fair enough, i understand why? i would too!

how are the mk1 and mk2 standard ones different though?

22nd November 2006, 01:24

Well on the mark 2 i think the manifold sticks out more than the mark 1.. (I was ear wigging cammedvtr's and hesslevtr's converstation last night

) but then i think they were just talking about standard manifolds.. I'd rather be safe than sorry

... im stoopid as hell when it comes to engines so when you find out let me know lol.

22nd November 2006, 01:24

mark 2 manifolds need 2 holes for sensors.
also mark 2 manifolds need to be designed differently as the filter is in the way..

22nd November 2006, 01:26

ive got one of these raceland manifolds.

you will require an additional sleeve. (for lambada sensor i think) about £15.

mark 1 spin on oil filter. about £4.
mark 1 sleeve/spindle. about £??

22nd November 2006, 01:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by beastgtir

mark 2 manifolds need 2 holes for sensors.
also mark 2 manifolds need to be designed differently as the filter is in the way..

But arn't the sensors removed when you fit an aftermarket manifold?.. i know that hesslevtr always goes on about his dangling lamba (sp.. i have no idea how to spell that, i dont even know if i got the name right lol) sensor in manfiold conversations...

22nd November 2006, 01:43

i'll let you all know about the mk1/mk2 thing as soon as he lets me know!

22nd November 2006, 01:44

Also it might be a good idea to point out that for a VTR the following happens;

If its a Mk1, it doesn't decat.
If its a Mk2, it does decat.

22nd November 2006, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowed_fury

Also it might be a good idea to point out that for a VTR the following happens;

If its a Mk1, it doesn't decat.
If its a Mk2, it does decat.

no always, mines a mk2 but the cat is underneath not in the manifold!

but i see what your saying, if the car is an X reg or after, ten buying one of these manifolds will in theory decat your car!

22nd November 2006, 01:52

Yeah you know what I mean, I generally say call it mks, but typically Citroen had to do that.

Thought about doing a group buy on heatwrap aswell? Maybe your source could add some for a small fee? (Just an idea - i'm bored)

22nd November 2006, 01:56

no harm in asking i suppose lol

22nd November 2006, 02:00

Just makes the deal that bit sweeter though

22nd November 2006, 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

But arn't the sensors removed when you fit an aftermarket manifold?.. i know that hesslevtr always goes on about his dangling lamba (sp.. i have no idea how to spell that, i dont even know if i got the name right lol) sensor in manfiold conversations...

the sensors arent removed totally, they are unplugged from the old manifold and fitted into slots in the new one.

a dangling sensor could cause the engine check light to come on and error codes on the ecu.

its better to just pay £10-£15 and get a sleeve/plug to fit in into and it will be safer aswell.

22nd November 2006, 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowed_fury

If its a Mk1, it doesn't decat.
If its a Mk2, it does decat.

Doesn't this mean it fails its MOT? or do you have to fit a cat under the car lyk the pre X reg's? Can you decat both Mk1 & Mk2? just a bit confused at the moment lol. Cheers

22nd November 2006, 08:19

S34mer you would need a mk1 manifold.

If they are availble for mk2 count me in, Been thinking about this recently and want one now.

Keep me updated with details got the money now so sooner the better tbh

22nd November 2006, 08:34

id be interested!

22nd November 2006, 09:02

interested in one of these but what else do you need? will it fit my 51plate furio?

22nd November 2006, 09:20

Mk1 manifolds don't fit on to mk 2's as the oil filter gets in the way. Sits perfect until the 4th branch at the right hand side sits further back as the oil filter sits just to high and gets in the way so does not go on. Certainly this is the case with the pro-tech ones!Just get a mk1 filter though and problem solved. Also the thing with the lambda sensors but thts an easy fix.

22nd November 2006, 09:21

ill have 1 mate if they fit onthe mk2 without having to move the oil filter, if you find that out and then let me know then ill be in.

as for the lamda thing on mk2, the 2nd 1 thats after the cat is sposed to detect clean emissions so if you put it in the manifold it wont, as you eliminate the cat abd the engine management light will cum on, you need to put the 1 out the top of the standard manifold into the hole provided, then the other that is after the cat on the mk2 need to go in a sleeve to fool it into thinking its clean air

22nd November 2006, 09:37

GMC used to do an oil relocator kit but you don't really need one of those..

from a mk 1 engine get the mk1 filter thread / filter. just need to blank the oil pressure switch hole or fit the pressure sensor and you are away.

I've also been told that a filter from a Renault 5 Gt turbo fits also

22nd November 2006, 10:13

any questions pm KamRacing ^^^^^^ as he is the man with the mani's!!

22nd November 2006, 10:23

Were are they actually been ordered from? direct from janspeed or another company?... Also can we start making a list?...

Cloud - Mark 2 vtr
Leckie - Mark 2 vtr
S34MER - Mark 1 vtr

22nd November 2006, 10:32

Cloud - Mark 2 vtr
Leckie - Mark 2 vtr
S34MER - Mark 1 vtr
BLUE_DEVIL - Mark 1 vtr

22nd November 2006, 10:44

Just sen this thread after posting on anohter...

Whats best for my Mk1 90bhp Silvertop VTR witht he following mods:
Viper induction
S/S decat
Remus racing tube
S/S Magnex backbox

4-1 or 4-2-1?

Thanks

22nd November 2006, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggers_saxvtr

Just sen this thread after posting on anohter...

Whats best for my Mk1 90bhp Silvertop VTR witht he following mods:
Viper induction
S/S decat
Remus racing tube
S/S Magnex backbox

4-1 or 4-2-1?

Thanks

read away friend, this thread wasn't made a sticky fo no reason! just read posts #18 and #19

22nd November 2006, 10:51

Hmmmm...Quick read - but if ive read it right it appears that a 4-2-1 would be best for my VTR, correct?

And many thanks for the info S34mer, rep biscuit for you my friend!!

22nd November 2006, 10:53

4-2-1 is what i would recommend mate!!

thanks for the biscuit! my fav....... chocolate! lol

22nd November 2006, 10:55

lol. No probs dude!

Ok count me in for a manifold, when do we need to pay and when can we have them? Racelands quite a good make isnt it!? It will fit a Mk1 yes?

Got to go now, but shall check up on this later! Thanks :thumbup:

22nd November 2006, 10:58

Cloud - Mark 2 vtr
Leckie - Mark 2 vtr
S34MER - Mark 1 vtr
BLUE_DEVIL - Mark 1 vtr
shaggers_saxvtr - Mark 1 vtr

22nd November 2006, 10:58

I'm interested in these when would you be ordering them and when do you need money?

22nd November 2006, 11:07

not sure if he has a discount code, to give us first, then i'll repost the link!

22nd November 2006, 11:15

when can we order?

22nd November 2006, 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leckie

when can we order?

ORDER AWAY MY FRIENDS!!!

22nd November 2006, 11:24

What about heat wrap?

22nd November 2006, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

What about heat wrap?

waiting for KamRacing to come back online!? he's the seller!! when he comes on he will answer any questions

22nd November 2006, 11:31

I shall await his response before ordering anything then

22nd November 2006, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

I shall await his response before ordering anything then

No worries mate, im in the same boat!

22nd November 2006, 11:39

so i take it these are mk1 then ??

22nd November 2006, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leckie

so i take it these are mk1 then ??

Nope mark 2 as well by the looks of it...

Raceland stainless steel performance manifold for Peugeot 106 1.6 8v
Also fits 106 1.6 Rallye and all Saxo 1.6 8v models

22nd November 2006, 11:57

Where do you order from?

22nd November 2006, 11:58

http://www.kam-racing.com/shop/catal...x.php/cPath/71

22nd November 2006, 12:01

s343mer aint your car mk2?

22nd November 2006, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by L1UKEVTR

s343mer aint your car mk2?

Yes but a 90bhp engine.

22nd November 2006, 12:08

How come these are £120?

I sent you details of this group buy http://forum.frenchsportsclub.com/in...showtopic=7681

I just bought one from there for £120 including next day city link delivery!

22nd November 2006, 12:08

Sorry I meant how come these are £130 and not £120

I know its only a tenner but every penny counts

22nd November 2006, 13:10

NK Trading are doing a stock clearance of dead stock i'd imagine hense the limited quantities available and the 'lets just get these out the door prices'

22nd November 2006, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

What about heat wrap?

its not a product that I stock currently, sorry guys..

22nd November 2006, 13:15

for the raceland manifolds there is only one part available whether it is a Mk1 or a Mk2 saxo. All you need to do is pick the 16v or 8v model.

Some people will need to relocate the filter in which case you need the thread and filter off a Mk1 engine.

22nd November 2006, 13:34

so how much is 1 gonna cost me delivered to my door then?

22nd November 2006, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

NK Trading are doing a stock clearance of dead stock i'd imagine hense the limited quantities available and the 'lets just get these out the door prices'

Not at all - a guy on FSC has organised a van to belgium and is bringing them all back - hence whey there is 30 available

They are all absolutely brand spanking new

22nd November 2006, 16:16

can you pay for these by paypal?

22nd November 2006, 16:26

^^^^^^ like tp know that too as ive got cash sat in there

22nd November 2006, 16:27

if theres paypal i'll snap 1 up:Y: otherwise i cant be ronnied lol

22nd November 2006, 16:39

4-1 are said to be best for vtr's as they add torque high up in the rev range as this is where a vtr runs out of puff, and a 4-2-1 is best for a vts as a vts has good power high up the rev range so the 4-2-1 add to the torque at low revs

22nd November 2006, 16:42

if it will fit my mk1 vtr can i let u know the weekend if ill ave one?

22nd November 2006, 17:24

Sorry to muck you bout but take my name off the list for now - not certain 4-2-1 is what im after, might get a 4-1...
Watch this space...!

22nd November 2006, 17:27

get both shaggers

22nd November 2006, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by custom_vtr

if theres paypal i'll snap 1 up:Y: otherwise i cant be ronnied lol

yes can pay by paypal

In fact thats the prefered way really.

22nd November 2006, 20:08

could anybody clear all this up because everything seems a bit confusing and not too sure on whats going on. i have a 2001 vtr so will one of these fit?? and will anyting else be required to fit it??

22nd November 2006, 20:29

yes it will fit, i believe you will need to re-locate your filter, this will also decat your car so it will fail MOT, you will need a sleeve for a cat, for MOT time!

22nd November 2006, 20:35

so where do i pay for one on paypal?

22nd November 2006, 20:38

ORDER HERE just follow the instructions, and fill out the order form!?

22nd November 2006, 20:40

is there an ebay shop, it would be easier?

22nd November 2006, 20:43

no don't think so! but it only takes two mins to fill out your name and address, then click pay by paypal and job done! don't be lazy lol

22nd November 2006, 20:44

man,you know im lazy:Y:

22nd November 2006, 20:49

gonna order one,how long do they take to arrive?

22nd November 2006, 20:51

next day delivery, read the thread sunny jim!

22nd November 2006, 20:52

^too lazy

+ it wont be next day now

22nd November 2006, 20:54

it will be next day when he gets the order tomoz!

23rd November 2006, 13:54

before everyone goes and orders on the site if people can make a definative list on here with your full name and username. This will firstly mean I can cross reference to make sure it is just Saxperience users placing the orders and also means I can make sure I have enough stock in to meet demand

24th November 2006, 15:18

Come on pay day move your ass

24th November 2006, 18:13

1999 T reg Mk1 Silver Top VTR , Will this manifold fit it? i need to know as ive just had to send 1 back lol, Also what about the sensor is there a hole on this manifold for it?

24th November 2006, 19:16

yes it will fit, apparently, steve has just told me there is a hole in the naifold, but its at the rear of the engine block, instead of the front?

24th November 2006, 19:41

bargain i shall order now

25th November 2006, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by argylefan1985

1999 T reg Mk1 Silver Top VTR , Will this manifold fit it? i need to know as ive just had to send 1 back lol, Also what about the sensor is there a hole on this manifold for it?

was it a raceland? There is a hole for the lamda sensor. The original wire just needs rerouting to reach it. Most people don't even have to extend the wire.

25th November 2006, 22:40

can you get these for the 3 plug vtr? my mate is wanting 1 at cheapest price possible.

26th November 2006, 12:33

It will fit the VTR..

26th November 2006, 18:33

nah it wasnt a raceland, have made an order with you tho, any idea on delivery times?

26th November 2006, 18:46

got your order thanks.

Price was based on 4+ orders .. but you're the only one so far.

Should get another delivery of raceland mani's this week so I'll ship them straight out (You should get it end of week). Sold the last of my stock Thursday

26th November 2006, 18:47

Cool. I am in desperate need of a new manifold, got a hole in the downpipe of my current one and its drinking petrol like no 2mrw

26th November 2006, 20:22

kam - my mate is wanting 1 for a mk2 vtr. how much would it be delivered?

26th November 2006, 20:29

The £130 cost includes TNT delivery

26th November 2006, 20:34

ok. i'll let him know and get back in touch.

26th November 2006, 21:06

will he need an oil filter relocation kit?

27th November 2006, 01:51

if the cat is in the manifold then it does require more work. If you get a mk1 oilfilter and thread that works fine.

27th November 2006, 08:50

Just ordered mine cant wait to get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

27th November 2006, 09:21

I can't order off here as the thing doesn't accept the type of card i have, im well bummed and its gonna take week until a paypal account can be setup! proper bummed!

27th November 2006, 19:59

When will the be delivered KamRacing?

27th November 2006, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER

I can't order off here as the thing doesn't accept the type of card i have, im well bummed and its gonna take week until a paypal account can be setup! proper bummed!

PM'd you.. I will accept a cheque. Will have to get of my bum to go to the bank though

27th November 2006, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrorange2

When will the be delivered KamRacing?

My latest delivery of Raceland manifolds is on its way to me from Belgium.

Delivery to me about Thursday and I'll get them straight on a courier to people.

28th November 2006, 08:15

Wicked should have it for weekend then

28th November 2006, 08:20

would this fit my 1.1??

28th November 2006, 11:22

The 8V one possibly would fit your 1.1 mate.

28th November 2006, 12:18

I have a feeling the port spacing is different.

They fit the 1.4 and the 1.6 8valve for certain as they share the same head.

28th November 2006, 17:03

me and S34MER are interested in these mate, i have paypal, pm me so we can talk about delivery and payment.

1st December 2006, 15:32

All manifolds paid for so far have been dispatched. They will arrive on Monday before 12.

Stebbs. Payment will be through the website .. . www.kam-racing.com and follow the link for the group buy. This way it can be logged and tracked correctly.

Both 8v and 16v are now in stock

1st December 2006, 17:24

wooooooohooooooooooooooo cant wait till monday

1st December 2006, 18:04

Me either

3rd December 2006, 11:32

not long now

3rd December 2006, 16:03

hehe counting the hours.

3rd December 2006, 20:01

16 hours tops ..

4th December 2006, 18:36

Got the manifold shame i aint at home till friday my mum says it very shinny lol Cheers mate i cant wait to get home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4th December 2006, 18:46

got mine through the post today too woohooo cant wait to try n fit it 2mrw

4th December 2006, 22:22

am confused everyone says a 4 -1 manifold best for a vtr???? so why get a 4 - 2 - 1? very interested in getting one aswel! its a 90bhp vtr phase 2 so will it fit straight on?

Cheers, rep awaits!

4th December 2006, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevey

am confused everyone says a 4 -1 manifold best for a vtr???? so why get a 4 - 2 - 1? very interested in getting one aswel! its a 90bhp vtr phase 2 so will it fit straight on?

Cheers, rep awaits!

i don't know why i bother

lol! have a read through THIS THREAD mate, this will explain it all!

4th December 2006, 22:29

helpful chap! you bother because your kind

4th December 2006, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevey

helpful chap! you bother because your kind

haha true, i like helpin people!

4th December 2006, 22:34

so should i buy one? will it make much difference if the rest of my exhaust system is standard? not replaced airfilter yet. i sort of understud your link.... but the vtr lacks power in the upper revs will it not be better for me to get a 4 - 1 thats what i was asking? i am clueless i will admit!

4th December 2006, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevey

so should i buy one? will it make much difference if the rest of my exhaust system is standard? not replaced airfilter yet. i sort of understud your link.... but the vtr lacks power in the upper revs will it not be better for me to get a 4 - 1 thats what i was asking? i am clueless i will admit!

correct! but its personal opinion! most people want quicker acceleration, if its more top end you want then go 4-1 mate! and if i were you i would get a full exhaust first, cause it ain't gonna make a shed load of difference without one!

5th December 2006, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by S34MER

correct! but its personal opinion! most people want quicker acceleration, if its more top end you want then go 4-1 mate! and if i were you i would get a full exhaust first, cause it ain't gonna make a shed load of difference without one!

cheers mate al hold out for a bit then! many thanks

5th December 2006, 19:35

KamRacing I have PMed you!

5th December 2006, 20:47

got that saxomeli.. You have a reply..

6th December 2006, 22:22

Just to clarify as I've had a couple of PMs on the issue is that this offer will remain open until Xmas. Any orders placed before the 19th will be dispatched in time to go in your stockings

13th December 2006, 09:13

David M your manifold has dispatched - You'll get it before noon tomorrow

13th December 2006, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

David M your manifold has dispatched - You'll get it before noon tomorrow

Thanks

Look forward to it.

14th December 2006, 10:04

Mystic - Yours is dispatched today. Will arrive TNT tomorrow

14th December 2006, 10:16

Thank You Please

21st December 2006, 16:52

kam will this offer still eb on for me after the hols period as there is no point in ordering with the x mas post!! u know wat i mean?? also will it fit a mk 2 vtr withthe cat in the manifold?? if so wen im relocating the oil filter wat do i do with the drainback hole??

21st December 2006, 17:52

you just block up the drainback hole with a suitable bolt as its not required AFAIK

I'll keep the offer open into January

21st December 2006, 20:25

you have a Pm KamRacing

22nd December 2006, 02:42

and replied. I'll keep this offer open until the end of Jan

25th December 2006, 22:40

pm sent to kamracing!

3rd January 2007, 20:28

how much are these now £120 + p &p? are these the same as the ones on ebay for £135 ecl p+p? whats everyones feedback on them when they were fitted.

8th January 2007, 22:37

Get paid on the 16th of Jan so will be ordering one of these Raceland 4-2-1 manifold then, I have a Mk2 VTR '00 X , thankfully my CAT is under the car and has one lambda probe

KamRacing, can you get a hold of the Raceland induction kits also? depanding on price I would consider purchasing one of these also.

Thx.
ManC

9th January 2007, 06:13

Heh your lucky with the cat being under the car.

I can get Raceland induction kits also. There currently aren't any special prices on them at the moment but off the top of my head they are only about £65. You can get one with a suitable Green filter for £100 all in.

If people want me to do a group buy on the induction kits I'm up for that. Will have a look at the prices if there is any interest.

G

9th January 2007, 06:47

anyfeed back on these from anyone??

9th January 2007, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamRacing

Heh your lucky with the cat being under the car.

I can get Raceland induction kits also. There currently aren't any special prices on them at the moment but off the top of my head they are only about £65. You can get one with a suitable Green filter for £100 all in.

If people want me to do a group buy on the induction kits I'm up for that. Will have a look at the prices if there is any interest.

G

If you could confirm the pricing for the Raceland induction with the appropriate size green filter that would be appreciated, and lets hope some more people are intrested so we get a keener price

Like Mark51 I am hoping people will post some opinions of there Raceland manifold's but with the christmas break i expect people have'nt got round to fitting them yet.

ManC

9th January 2007, 08:36

i have hard that they are not the best you can get BUT for the money that are spot on, a GMC one can cost around £270

9th January 2007, 08:51

Me also, but combined with a green filter it should be better, cant bring myself to spend £270.

Been thinking about the evosport carbon box, similiar to the BMC one.
ebay link to evosport carbon box. £57.99 delivered
But I am not keen on using a oil breather as I hear they leak oil

ManC

9th January 2007, 09:25

you have to use an oil breather with a BMC any mate, plenty of people have them and i have never heard of them leaking.

what car have you got? if its something your keeping for a while then its worth spending the cash on

9th January 2007, 20:21

Quote:

I have a Mk2 VTR '00 X , thankfully my CAT is under the car and has one lambda probe

The breather I had kept pissing out oil, had to keep wiping it up every week

hence why I want one of the Raceland jobbies as you get a connector which you would normally attach a breather to.

ManC

12th February 2007, 21:58

i have a question for the people who bought this manifold!

have you encountered any problems whilst putting it on the car?? was it perfectly straight? did it fit ok??

i'm asking this because i want to buy one, and some people here in the netherlands have experienced problems like the things i've mentioned...

13th February 2007, 11:29

what year is your car?

There isn't any reason why it wouldn't fi straight. The Mk2 models do have to change the oil filter and thread though

13th February 2007, 11:51

i have a mk1, 1.4 8v from 1999

i don't know the word for it but the point on which it mounts to the head of the motor isnt always straight with a raceland. (some people who have bought it tell me this)

for that reason here in the netherlands the raceland products arent as popular