Advice on superchip

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #1
    Hey. I have one of those superchips and wonder if theres any point fitting it or not as i dont read much good about them! Ive got a mk1 vtr silvertop 90bhp with enclosed induction kit, 4-2-1 manifold with decated straight thru powerflow system if it makes any diference, what do you think? cheers
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec
    #2
    no, they're shite.
  3. Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Essex Posts: 1029
    #3
    From what i've read a super chip that is designed for a car will just be mass produced and you will get one that was made for the original car.

    The better option (so i've been told) is to get your ECU re-mapped for your car. So its made for your actual car!
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #4
    Its a premade mapping.

    So I imagine on some cars it will be better, some it wont. All depends on the
    mods done.
    Get a real ECU remap I say.
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mattc View Post
    From what i've read a super chip that is designed for a car will just be mass produced and you will get one that was made for the original car.

    The better option (so i've been told) is to get your ECU re-mapped for your car. So its made for your actual car!
    yup thats right
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 East Yorkshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6169 VTR
    #6
    Superchip or ebay resistor? lol well eitherway there crap
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    no, they're shite.

    AMEN!
  8. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #8
    graph removed before i get another slating haha!
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec
    #9
    ^^^that would assume that every car which rolls off the production line is 100% identical, which it isn't. a superchip was probably good on the car it was mapped on originally, but as it's a generic map it simply wont work on other cars, in fact they've been known to make cars run lean top end. you can't just reprogram the management and expect 10-20bhp, if you think you can then you live in maxpowerland. you only need to reprogram the management when changes are made to the fuelling or ignition timing eg when camming.

    ^^^that's also bollocks in terms of high bhp equalling poor mpg, as i'm sure campdave said his 160-ihs bhp vts returned 34-35 mpg
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #10
    how the hell does that scale help
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI
    #11
    Sorry S34MER, that graph is balls as far as a non-turbo'd car goes.

    The thing with chip tuning is that you want the car as efficent as possible. Apparently the superchip isn't a good map
  12. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CampDavid View Post
    Sorry S34MER, that graph is balls as far as a non-turbo'd car goes.

    The thing with chip tuning is that you want the car as efficent as possible. Apparently the superchip isn't a good map

    Oh well, i can't be right all the time lol!
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI
    #13
    Good effort though

    A well mapped car will generally give pretty good ecconomy, mine was around 35mpg on cams
  14. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #14
    ive no more plans for the car, not re-mapping or camming it cause i want the 16v engine but its just the fact i have the chip. no need for raised rev limiter even?
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR
    #15
    If your getting vts/gti engine then in my opinion there's no need to waste money having it fitted or the rev limit raised, but that depends on how long until you get a new engine.
  16. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #16
    can have the chip fitted for free so thats no problem. just now the car tops out at 6 and a quarter on the rev clock but in 1st and 2nd u hit the limiter too soon it feels like its still pulling and then it bounces off the limiter and i gota change so thats why i was thinking about higher rev limiter. Aint expecting any power gain from it, well ok mayb 9 trillion bhp

    Still tho, would it be bad for the engine reving past 6 and 1/4 revs wi current mods? cheers
  17. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 evesham, worcs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3813 197 cup
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by godfridge View Post
    can have the chip fitted for free so thats no problem. just now the car tops out at 6 and a quarter on the rev clock but in 1st and 2nd u hit the limiter too soon it feels like its still pulling and then it bounces off the limiter and i gota change so thats why i was thinking about higher rev limiter. Aint expecting any power gain from it, well ok mayb 9 trillion bhp

    Still tho, would it be bad for the engine reving past 6 and 1/4 revs wi current mods? cheers
    well you dont really have any mods that need revving past 6 and 1/4, and yeh it would be bad for the engine
  18. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 155 Mk1 Saxo vtr
    #18
    cool cheers basicly wot i needed to know!