sorry to sound thick

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2006 bradford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 495 vtr 51
    #1
    but am reading a few threads on superchips and people are saying there a waste of money then you go onto talking about remaps hay gose what is a remap and how much are they i thought thay were the same
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,
    #2
    I think you'll find that superchips are off the shelf and not mapped specifically to your car.
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289
    #3
    im getting a remap on saturday i thinks its around £290 plus vat so not to exspensive really its the work running upto the remap wich can cost alot
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2006 exeter Posts: 198 saxo-1.4 westy
    #4
    a remap is when you chip is set to your setup eg:air filter,cams ect.ect
    a super chip is a set up to a basic rev limit raise and dont realy give you a good out come from your mods
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec
    #5
    A superchip was probably very good on the car it was originally mapped on, however the problem lies with the fact that this original map is then copied and sold to be fitted to other cars of the same model, thus making it a generic map ie not mapped specifically to a particular car, as no two engines come out of the factory with the same tolerances etc. Also there is no real need to alter the ecu map unless changing the fuelling or ignition (ie by camming or boosting).
    Remap is when the specific car is put on a rolling road, or driven in the case of a live map, with an initial base map to get it up and running. the base map is then fine tuned to take into account both the modifications and how the engine behaves in terms of fuelling and ignition at many specific points throughout the power range.
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #6
    a super chip is a tweaked Map still for a 'generic' car in the same way as a standard ECU has a generic map.

    These could never be as good as a custom map for your car
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KamRacing View Post
    a super chip is a tweaked Map still for a 'generic' car in the same way as a standard ECU has a generic map.
    only major difference being the standard ecu has a degree of self-learning built into it
  8. Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2006 bradford United Kingdom (England) Posts: 495 vtr 51
    #8
    if i had a piper cross filter 421 manifold and a full stainless would i gane anything getting a remap them ????????
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sax51 View Post
    if i had a piper cross filter 421 manifold and a full stainless would i gane anything getting a remap them ????????
    yes you would but not much

    re maps are only really needed for when you have a cam, throttle bodies and foreced induction

    lose the piper filter for an enclosed 1
  10. East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS
    #10
    we need to get this stickyfied! lol its a great thread and it explains alot! plus the topic is starting to become more of a regular one. Sean work your magic son!
  11. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    only major difference being the standard ecu has a degree of self-learning built into it
    true but its not optimised for performance.

    Its a compromise with such nonsense as fuel economy / emissions as important factors.