ARB`s

1. citroenaxgtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 swansea United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 895 citroen ax vtr

   #1 9th December 2006, 19:29

   yo chaps,
   how thick are the anti roll bars in the variety of models?..
   from 1.1 to 1.6 vts please lads + lasses.
2. weetz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Newcastle Posts: 725 Fiesta ST180 Saxo VTS

   #2 9th December 2006, 22:57

   I heard they come in sizes 18mm, 20mm, 21mm and 25mm but im not sure which models they correspond to, sorry.
3. citroenaxgtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 swansea United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 895 citroen ax vtr

   #3 9th December 2006, 23:51

   i heared they were 19mm and 22mm not too sure about the 25mm you are on about though,, i could be wrong.
4. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

   #4 9th December 2006, 23:55

   106 gti had 24mm iirc
5. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #5 9th December 2006, 23:55

   24mm ARB come standard on the 106 GTi.
   Dont think any VTS's came with the 24mm option
   A 25mm ARB would be purchased from Peugeot Sport I believe (same parts for
   the Citreon's)
   There are other more thin Diameter ones but nothing to sing and dance about.
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 10th December 2006, 16:56

   no car came with the 25mm arb.. has to be bought new for ass ooot action
   
   
   altho i think the 106 partner van may have come with an uber thick ARB
7. yr51ocw Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 751

   #7 10th December 2006, 20:08

   24mm to be precise ryanal!
   
   But the original question doesnt ask wherther its front or rear arbs.
8. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #8 10th December 2006, 21:57

   Its obviously the rear!!
9. chrisni1986 Established Member Joined: May 2005 Northern Ireland Posts: 1020 EVO 5, 306XLD

   #9 10th December 2006, 22:46

   what way do they work then the thicker the less roll i take it?
10. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #10 10th December 2006, 22:52

    Thicker they are the less roll found under cornering. They can increase grip
    that the tyres and suspension provide.
    Things like balancing out understeer and oversteer also benifit from better
    suited ARBs.
11. weetz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Newcastle Posts: 725 Fiesta ST180 Saxo VTS

    #11 10th December 2006, 23:05

    Do better bushes (stiffer) make much difference in decreasing body roll?
12. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #12 10th December 2006, 23:09

    Soso, the front ARB bushes, wishbone bushes didnt seem to make much
    difference. They obviously do a better job but couldnt tell anything new.
    
    But the rear beam mount bushes did make the rear feel a bit neater and tighter
    under more heavy cornering.
    
    I personally think that if the car has been dropped lower than standard ride
    height then eventually the bushes will need replacing.
    The lower you go the quicker I imagine they will wear away also. (not by a
    large amount)
13. weetz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Newcastle Posts: 725 Fiesta ST180 Saxo VTS

    #13 10th December 2006, 23:31

    I believe my rear bushes have gone and i get a laughable amount of body roll under heavy turning.
14. yr51ocw Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 751

    #14 11th December 2006, 01:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 Its obviously the rear!!

    Is it really?
    People seem to forget that saxo have front antiroll bars, that you can get in diffferent thinkness' to help balance out the handelling.
15. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #15 11th December 2006, 04:09

    But its the rear ones which are variable amongst the different models as
    standard.
16. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

    #16 18th December 2006, 19:24

    Hmm so what do the vts's come with as standard?
    And would upgrading the arb to for eg. a 25mm make a lot of noticeable difference?
17. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #17 18th December 2006, 19:34

    VTS's come with 19.5 or 22mm bars. Its random, but most mk2s have gay thin 19.5 efforts. Choice of 25mm bars availible. Seem to be about 300notes now though. I have one. Combined with 22mm Torsion bars and dampers which have been valved specifically its given the back end a load of stability, grip and complience over every surface its been on. Downside is the rides a bit bouncy. And It'd cost about a grand to do using new parts
18. Jay_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 750 Black VT. Slag. Black S1 Rallye. Clio 172 Cup.

    #18 18th December 2006, 19:36

    Oh rite, nice one.
    thanks campdavid