S2 rally engine?

1. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

   #1 20th December 2006, 17:45

   i've got a 1.1 Mk2 desire....but looking in the near future to drop a bigger engine in..whats the speck of the S2 rally block bhp etc...and whats the engine like for future performance mods pluss is it easy for the conversion is there any info i need to get on the engine or owt to look at??
   
   regards
   chris
2. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #2 20th December 2006, 17:49

   findin a decent s2 engine will be tough
   
   put in a VT engine
   
   or get a proper VT
3. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

   #3 20th December 2006, 18:10

   Ive been looking on the net for a modified engine to swap for my standard vts lump... was thinkin this would be cheaper than to build my block up? Does anyone know anywhere to find them? and what sort of price am i looking at for a decent engine? what sort of bhp/pound am i lookin at? thanks
4. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #4 20th December 2006, 18:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Joesnow Ive been looking on the net for a modified engine to swap for my standard vts lump... was thinkin this would be cheaper than to build my block up? Does anyone know anywhere to find them? and what sort of price am i looking at for a decent engine? what sort of bhp/pound am i lookin at? thanks

   what startin block you after?
   
   you could get a VTS block then build up
   
   lightened and blalanced crank
   forged pistons
   cams
   big valve cylinder head
   40mm throttle bodies
   
   etc
   
   but dont quote me
5. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

   #5 20th December 2006, 18:26

   a lad i no is splitting and S2 ralle so will find out milage and stuff...but what is the Performance outlook ofr the engine cams, turbo etc??
6. Joesnow Frequent Poster Joined: May 2006 Posts: 691 Mk 1 VTS poseidon blue

   #6 20th December 2006, 18:27

   well ive already got a vts... but how much would it cost to do all of that to my engine??
   how much would a engine with that spec be worth? surely theres a 200hp 9000rpm screacher somewhere to be brought?
7. doubledavies Established Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1400

   #7 20th December 2006, 18:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Joesnow well ive already got a vts... but how much would it cost to do all of that to my engine?? how much would a engine with that spec be worth? surely theres a 200hp 9000rpm screacher somewhere to be brought?

   ebay? their all custom so i would think they would be hard to come by
8. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #8 20th December 2006, 19:24

   yes its at citroen sport and it costs 20k. lol.i
   f you want that sort of power cheaper to to go boosted--and it will be drivable
9. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #9 20th December 2006, 19:28

   to be serious ,i wouldn,t buy an highly tuned engine s/h unless you really know what you are doing
   ask yourself why is it for sale?
   an engine which will give power @9k will be ubusable for road and would never pass an mot
10. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #10 21st December 2006, 09:51

    If you are looking for 200+ hp go for turbo. Don't waste your money for atmospheric modifications, it will cost a lot.
    Other way : You can port&polish, induction kit, exhaust manifold, cams, remap this will be around 150-155hp. Then you can buy nitro and 50hp shot. You will have a nice for everyday driving car and when you want you can have 200 hp. With turbo convertion you can have the same power for almost the same money, but you will not have enough grip. The turbo will make your engine not very reliable because of the much bigger pressure in the cilinders.
11. nassso Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 187

    #11 21st December 2006, 09:57

    I can do the convertion for about 1,5k euro but this will work only for 0,5-0,7 bar. Standart pistons, lowered compression of the head with metal gasket, chinese turbo t28 or t3, custom made manifold, extra injector controlled with MF2 (no remap needed here), intercooler, fuel pressure regulator, blowoff valve, wastegate, boost controller (not electronic ) this gives you about 160 hp.
12. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

    #12 23rd December 2006, 12:36

    for the conversion to the 1.6 S2 ralle engine is there nay thing i need to look at e.g ecu 3plug or owt??
13. beardy Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 isle of wight Posts: 761 Impreza STI - Saxo GTI

    #13 24th December 2006, 18:21

    103bhp at 6200rpm and gives 97lbs/ft of torque at 3500rpm.
    
    
    keep ur vts... lol
14. beardy Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 isle of wight Posts: 761 Impreza STI - Saxo GTI

    #14 24th December 2006, 18:24

    http://www.rallyeregister.co.uk/specs.htm
15. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

    #15 24th December 2006, 20:08

    chears for that beardy thats a great help think i will stick with VTS or look at summot a bit diff like i like to do