what can i remove?

1. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

   #1 1st January 2007, 23:50

   ok so i got an induction kit for my 1.1 what can i remove from the engine bay from the original air intake? as it looks as if theres hoses that do things coming from the main pipe from the grill and the manifold cover i have a r reg saxo btw
   
   Any help appreciated
2. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #2 2nd January 2007, 00:08

   What kind of induction kit you got? open or enclosed?
   
   if you've got an enclosed induction kit, then you can remove everything to do with the standard filter.
   
   if you've got an open filter then i recomend either sellin it and buying a enclosed kit or remove everythin except the cold air feed.
3. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

   #3 2nd January 2007, 00:13

   open, where can i get a decent enclosed one from? are they more efficent? dont i need to keep the air pipe onto the manifold or the smaller hoses coming off it, as they look as if they maybe sensors for something?
4. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #4 2nd January 2007, 00:13

   remove all of it to begin with
   
   then if its an open filter leabe the standard air intake pies so it feeds the filter with cold air
5. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #5 2nd January 2007, 00:19

   There shouldnt be any piping from filter to manifold, wasnt on mine anyway!
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 2nd January 2007, 00:20

   think he means breather filters
   
   you can buy this little induction pipe breathers there about £5-£10
7. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

   #7 2nd January 2007, 00:21

   is on this one...
   http://www.ecotekplc.com/images/Pug1...amkd_small.jpg
8. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

   #8 2nd January 2007, 00:23

   heres a better pick as u can see there is a pipe leading to the main intake hose from the manifold cover?? can i remove that also what do i do if i remove it all and then i got a small gap in the carborettor housing and top of the rocker cover i'm guessing for the oil? do i leave that lead in or add breathers?
   
   http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0
9. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #9 2nd January 2007, 00:28

   dont know about the heat shield pipe but yeah you can breather filters for the pipe coming from the rocker cover.
10. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #10 2nd January 2007, 00:49

    the 1 what goes to the rocker cover you will need a breather for
    
    the 1 what goes to manifold is nothing to worry about
11. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

    #11 2nd January 2007, 08:26

    I've never seen one from the heatshield like that before. Surely it cant do anything?
12. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #12 2nd January 2007, 12:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan I've never seen one from the heatshield like that before. Surely it cant do anything?

    it was on early models dan
    
    was on most early cars
13. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #13 2nd January 2007, 19:26

    so i need 2 breathers one for the carb housing and one on the rocker cover? everything else can go apart from the cold air feed?
14. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #14 2nd January 2007, 22:43

    is this right?
15. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #15 2nd January 2007, 23:06

    the 1 on carb housing should be ok
    
    just the 1 for the rocker cover
16. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #16 2nd January 2007, 23:13

    oh ok so i can just leave it or put a cap of it?
17. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #17 2nd January 2007, 23:16

    does the breather what goes to the carb housing go onto the card or part of the air filter
18. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #18 2nd January 2007, 23:21

    the hose from the carb that meets the rocker cover are just joined together nothing else joining i believe without lookin theres a big round thing as u can see in the pic.. is this a sensor its sorta in the middle of that hose
19. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #19 2nd January 2007, 23:27

    i cant tell if the hose what goes to the carb conects to the card or the plastic of the filter
    
    the one what goes to rocker cover take the breather hose off were it concts to the filter and put a breather filer on that
20. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #20 2nd January 2007, 23:29

    i dont know sorry i havent got a clue really
21. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #21 2nd January 2007, 23:32

    can you get a pic from the other side
    
    from that pic it looks like it goes into the card so wont need to touch it
    
    but most pics are deciving
22. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #22 2nd January 2007, 23:35

    yeah i'll try
23. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #23 2nd January 2007, 23:37

    can you make the first pic you posted bigger and il be able to tell
24. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #24 2nd January 2007, 23:43

    heres another link of a 1.1 engine same as mine..
    http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/7b/35/b435_1.JPG
    
    not good pic though really
25. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #25 2nd January 2007, 23:45

    from that pic it looks like it goes to the card so you wont need to touch it
    
    but im not 100% as i cant really see it for definate
26. 355858 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Norwich Posts: 730 Saxo VTR Mk2 Wicked Red - Suzuki jimny soft top

    #26 2nd January 2007, 23:51

    so just take everything out and and leave the hose from the rocker cover to the carb housin
27. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #27 2nd January 2007, 23:55

    take everything out
    
    and put the breather filter onto the rubber pipe coming off rocker cover