Induction Kit?

1. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

   #1 5th January 2007, 00:11

   I have a Saxo 1.0i
   
   What would you recommend to get for it? Nothing too pricey but shiny and maybe red aswel?
   
   Will it effect my insurance and how much?
2. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #2 5th January 2007, 00:15

   Couldnt really recommend anything for a 1.0i really the best i would imagine would be a panel filter as there probably not worth splashing out on enclosed filters as you wont see much power from them
3. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #3 5th January 2007, 00:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rising_Storm I have a Saxo 1.0i What would you recommend to get for it? Nothing too pricey but shiny and maybe red aswel?

   There's no point in getting anything over the top as you're not going to see much gain, only really for the sound to be honest.
   
   Therefore, go for a pipercross or K&N 57i. Something simple and not that expensive
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rising_Storm Will it effect my insurance and how much?

   It depends on your insurance company. Most will charge you extra but if you mention that it's only for sound and wont add much if any power to your car then they may be more lenient.
   
   
   Scot
4. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #4 5th January 2007, 00:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stiffler69 Couldnt really recommend anything for a 1.0i really the best i would imagine would be a panel filter as there probably not worth splashing out on enclosed filters as you wont see much power from them

   you will see less gain from a panel filter and less sound so I would advise to get an open filter.
5. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

   #5 5th January 2007, 00:19

   I was told you couldnt fit Induction kits to 1.0i .....but i was one for the VTR 1.6i that looked really nice and it was like £50 so i thought id get some advise.
6. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #6 5th January 2007, 00:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rising_Storm I was told you couldnt fit Induction kits to 1.0i .....but i was one for the VTR 1.6i that looked really nice and it was like £50 so i thought id get some advise.

   You can fit induction kits to a petrol powered lawn mower.
   
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by snewham you will see less gain from a panel filter and less sound so I would advise to get an open filter.

   Dont get an open induction kit. they are pap, sap power sound gay.
   
   Panel filter all the way. £35. Couldnt believe the difference even on my little nipper.
7. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

   #7 5th January 2007, 00:23

   Can you have both?
8. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #8 5th January 2007, 00:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer Panel filter all the way. £35. Couldnt believe the difference even on my little nipper.

   you own a diesel you homo
   
   
   and why would you not be able to fit an induction kit to a 1.0 litre?? lol
9. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

   #9 5th January 2007, 00:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rising_Storm Can you have both?

   no you can't.
10. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #10 5th January 2007, 00:27

    Ad please stop talking out your bottom! you make it sound like a panel filter is the equivelant (sp) to a Turbo! lol "Couldnt believe the difference!"
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 5th January 2007, 00:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rising_Storm Can you have both?

    Sure can but it would be too restrictive on the flow of air, cost too much and wouldn't benefit the engine.
    
    Panel Filter.
12. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #12 5th January 2007, 00:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER Ad please stop talking out your bottom! you make it sound like a panel filter is the equivelant (sp) to a Turbo! lol "Couldnt believe the difference!"

    Ok getting ahead of myself but....
    
    I did a 0-60 on mine before and 0-60 after.
    
    15.4 before
    14.2 after
    
    ok, my beast is slow. but thats a 8% increase in performance.
    If he was to put a open induction kit he'd lose power and sound a nonce.
13. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #13 5th January 2007, 00:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer I did a 0-60 on mine before and 0-60 after. 15.4 before 14.2 after

    I'm going to try not to laugh at that. Maybe you should make it a fair test and take the average of 5 runs with and 5 runs without and see what result we get then I doubt it will be that much difference.
14. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #14 5th January 2007, 00:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer Ok getting ahead of myself but.... I did a 0-60 on mine before and 0-60 after. 15.4 before 14.2 after ok, my beast is slow. but thats a 8% increase in performance. If he was to put a open induction kit he'd lose power and sound a nonce.

    amen! The panel filter is all its worth doing on it and if he wants a bit of noised stick a back box on it
15. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #15 5th January 2007, 00:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer Ok getting ahead of myself but.... I did a 0-60 on mine before and 0-60 after. 15.4 before 14.2 after

    hahahaha 14.2 secs lol suprised it even made it to 60 in the first place
16. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #16 5th January 2007, 00:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snewham I'm going to try not to laugh at that. Maybe you should make it a fair test and take the average of 5 runs with and 5 runs without and see what result we get then I doubt it will be that much difference.

    Thats what I did.
    
    I aint no stupid person
    
    
    and yours is slower than mine. so cant talk
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 5th January 2007, 00:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER hahahaha 14.2 secs lol suprised it even made it to 60 in the first place

    hardy ha.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    95mpg
18. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #18 5th January 2007, 00:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S34MER hahahaha 14.2 secs lol suprised it even made it to 60 in the first place

    lol
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer Thats what I did. I aint no stupid person

    ok then homie, I just feel that the standard air intake through the grill is so restrictive to air flow that it can't be better than an open filter with a cold air feed?
19. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #19 5th January 2007, 00:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer I aint no stupid person

    
    i agree with you there, think most peole would agree your the sax-p geek you make me piss with some of the in depth scientific responses you come out with!
20. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #20 5th January 2007, 00:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snewham lol ok then homie, I just feel that the standard air intake through the grill is so restrictive to air flow that it can't be better than an open filter with a cold air feed?

    
    Would you believe how sad I can be?
    
    I measured the intake diameter and worked out the air flow rate at various rpm's. The size looks restrictive but its fine. You'll be surprised how much air gets munched tho.
    
    The citroen engineers, despite forgetting that the cars need to be reliable for longer than a week after they come off the production run are not daft.
21. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #21 5th January 2007, 00:42

    adsayer knows his shit. Hes studying aerospace mechanics or something... you cant say someone whos studying something you cant even say, is stupid. (although i did in fact get the open filter with air feed...)
22. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #22 5th January 2007, 00:42

    Right i know this is for a mr2 turbo but my mate just got 1 for his and said the filter is the dog danglies with a stainless enclosure and also comes with reducers for different intakes if you could find the room in your engine bay with access to a cold air feed this is the sort of thing you should look at
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Performan...em130063161159
    
    now im thinking of trying 1 of these on my car if theres room in the bay and see if it compares to my cda induction kit and for the price its worth a try
23. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #23 5th January 2007, 00:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer Would you believe how sad I can be? I measured the intake diameter and worked out the air flow rate at various rpm's. The size looks restrictive but its fine. You'll be surprised how much air gets munched tho. The citroen engineers, despite forgetting that the cars need to be reliable for longer than a week after they come off the production run are not daft.

    hmm interesting,
24. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #24 5th January 2007, 00:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas adsayer knows his shit. Hes studying aerospace mechanics or something... you cant say someone whos studying something you cant even say, is stupid. (although i did in fact get the open filter with air feed...)

    who said he was stupid?
25. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

    #25 5th January 2007, 00:45

    I can only seem to find Induction kit's for 1.1 and up...should this matter?
    
    And where should i buy from?
26. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #26 5th January 2007, 00:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rising_Storm I can only seem to find Induction kit's for 1.1 and up...should this matter? And where should i buy from?

    any saxo induction kit will fit your car mate!
27. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #27 5th January 2007, 00:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rising_Storm I can only seem to find Induction kit's for 1.1 and up...should this matter? And where should i buy from?

    shouldn't make a difference I think the intake inlet is the sam diameter? just shop around for the best price mate. There can sometimes be some good deals on ebay. If not try 2modified, and potn.com
28. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #28 5th January 2007, 00:49

    true noone said hes stupid lol... i took it as you were saying hes daft about the panel filter thing. I cant believe he measured the grille though.. saxp geek indeed lol
29. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

    #29 5th January 2007, 00:49

    http://www.auto-cruise.net/product.p...cat=351&page=1
    So that should fit just fine?
30. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #30 5th January 2007, 00:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rising_Storm http://www.auto-cruise.net/product.p...cat=351&page=1 So that should fit just fine?

    Yes but did you just miss that whole thread open induction kits will make your car sluggish and less responsive as they suffer from heat soak from the engine, a panel filter in your standard box will give you the best performance increase's
31. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #31 5th January 2007, 00:56

    however an open one makes you feel like youre really going fast cause of the noise.
32. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #32 5th January 2007, 00:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stiffler69 Yes but did you just miss that whole thread open induction kits will make your car sluggish and less responsive as they suffer from heat soak from the engine, a panel filter in your standard box will give you the best performance increase's

    just mount it close to your grill and away from your engine or fabricate a heat sheild....
33. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #33 5th January 2007, 00:58

    what can you make a heat shield out of? i could do with doing that on mine.
34. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #34 5th January 2007, 00:58

    have a look at this:
    
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COLD-AIR-INTAK...QQcmdZViewItem
    
    although the filter inside is shite it is quite a good air intake and heat sheild. However it does say VTS on the top, I'm asking them if they do it plain, will hopefully get a reply tomorrow.
35. Rising_Storm Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 10

    #35 5th January 2007, 00:58

    Ok point taken. Im looking around for Panel filters.
    
    I was looking to make it look a little nicer under the bonnet aswel you see. Looks boring and plastic.
36. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #36 5th January 2007, 00:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas what can you make a heat shield out of? i could do with doing that on mine.

    plastic. aluminium. stainless steel. What do you have in your garage?
    
    
    I'm either going for a raceland enclosed or get an open filter and injection mould a plastic heat shield for it. (ooo the joys of having good equipment at college)
37. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #37 5th January 2007, 00:59

    well mines a k&n one, is there anyway to make a heat shield for that?
    edit: since my mum and dad got separated we dont have a garage, a basement we do have though. Wouldnt expect there to be good materials in it though.
38. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #38 5th January 2007, 01:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas well mines a k&n one, is there anyway to make a heat shield for that?

    you can make your own heat shield out of anything. Just depends how much time you want to put into it and what kinda skilllzzzz you have
39. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #39 5th January 2007, 01:02

    you have a massive gap where all that plastic used to be - looks mint except for the fact the K&N looks dead new and fresh and the rest looks old and worn out...
40. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #40 5th January 2007, 01:03

    i didnt mean to ask that question twice lol. And i dont have any skillz or materialz zo ill use some tin foil!
41. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #41 5th January 2007, 01:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rising_Storm Ok point taken. Im looking around for Panel filters. I was looking to make it look a little nicer under the bonnet aswel you see. Looks boring and plastic.

    Ive just ordered this going to use some reducers and some silicone piping as a experiment to see how good it is you see with it been for a mr-2 turbo i imagine the filter allows a much more free air flow as it has to cope with the sucking of the turbo unit and high bhp the mr2 kicks out size wise i think it will fit ok do some measurements and if you have room its worth considering
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEBI:IT&ih=003
42. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #42 5th January 2007, 01:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas you have a massive gap where all that plastic used to be - looks mint except for the fact the K&N looks dead new and fresh and the rest looks old and worn out...

    lol clean your engine then
    
    
43. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #43 5th January 2007, 01:06

    fair enough tha could be done but i dont have the cash to change parts at the moment - i take it thats how you did it? However it must be said that looks mint and not like my rusty old engine
44. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #44 5th January 2007, 01:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas fair enough tha could be done but i dont have the cash to change parts at the moment - i take it thats how you did it? However it must be said that looks mint and not like my rusty old engine

    Well only the rocker cover has been replace in there but that wasn't rusty in the first place. The rest was cleaned with Autoglym engine cleaner, plastic was back to blacked and the manifold cover and other bits will be brillo padded and metal polished up
45. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #45 5th January 2007, 01:09

    i see. So did you just scrub the rust away? id like to try that see how it looks. Do you notice the difference with a strut brace?
46. user_7076 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2005 Milton Keynes Posts: 8504 Audi A1 S-Line, Mazda MX5 Kuro, Renault Clio 1.2,

    #46 5th January 2007, 01:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxooxas i see. So did you just scrub the rust away? id like to try that see how it looks. Do you notice the difference with a strut brace?

    I didn't have any rust in my engine bay in the first place. The only place that has been tarnished a bit is the manifold cover as you can see in the picture.
    
    Noticed a massive difference with the strut brace, was more responsive and was alot less understeer.
47. saxooxas Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2006 stalybridge! Posts: 2550 1 series

    #47 5th January 2007, 01:16

    sorry im tired things just dont click with me lol! yeah the only rust bit is on the manifold its not massive just a little bit on mine. Id be considering getting a strut brace as well thatd be cool. I see what you mean about your manifold too but youd have had to point it out to me its pretty hard to spot.