Power From 1.4

1. Bubba Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Derry N.Ireland Posts: 114 Blue Westy 1.4(",)~~

   #1 12th January 2007, 18:53

   i am fed up with having shitey power in my westcoast i have a crappy max power filter on for the noise and a back box! that is all to the engine but ever since i put these on i think the car has actually got very slow and it sounds like the power is blowing straight out the back of it
   
   so i am asking yous now what the F£ck can i put on the thing to make it faster? i was thinking on straight through with a gen 2 k&n but and a 4-2-1 but then was told i will notice the difference but not much i would reali just want it to be able to keep up with a slightly standard VTR like
   
   any suggestions? i have searched and have got a couple of good threads which i am trying to use and have added above but i need mores like cams and flywheels and shite would they help ?
2. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #2 12th January 2007, 19:01

   depeneds how much money you have to spend, if you have the money then youd be better off buying a vtr, if not go for a full system and a BMC filter imo
3. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #3 12th January 2007, 19:01

   You can get a full exhaust system and de-cat, manifold, enclosed air filter.
   
   Not sure if a cam is available for a 1.4 though.
   
   Spending this money you may aswell buy a vtr.
4. Bubba Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Derry N.Ireland Posts: 114 Blue Westy 1.4(",)~~

   #4 12th January 2007, 19:02

   rite well i have about 1,600 to spend so far like with say 200 each week placed on top! whats the ideas kido? was thinking of looking at VTS's when i come over to liverpool at the end of january or else some VTR's
5. Robbo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2005 M'Bro - Teesside Posts: 3060 401 bhp r33 skyline

   #5 12th January 2007, 19:31

   save up for a few weeks and get yourself an S, itll be worth it!
6. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #6 12th January 2007, 20:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dan You can get a full exhaust system and de-cat, manifold, enclosed air filter. Not sure if a cam is available for a 1.4 though. Spending this money you may aswell buy a vtr.

   as Dan said, although there is a cam available for the 1.4 infact a guy on here has one cammed.
7. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #7 12th January 2007, 20:45

   who has cammed one??
8. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

   #8 12th January 2007, 20:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mark51 who has cammed one??

   I can't remember mate, i deffo saw a thread im sure it was in the for sale section! i'll have a look now!
9. nikstar Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2005 morpeth United Kingdom (England) Posts: 169 Clio sport 172

   #9 12th January 2007, 20:51

   wey your probs going to end up spending near to a grand just to match the performance of a vtr, but then again the vtr engine looks very similar to the 1.4, if you get what i mean, but ov course you would have to inform your insurance. But you could probs do vtr conversion for little money.
10. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #10 12th January 2007, 20:52

    here we go Cammed Furio (Click Here)
11. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #11 12th January 2007, 20:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikstar wey your probs going to end up spending near to a grand just to match the performance of a vtr, but then again the vtr engine looks very similar to the 1.4, if you get what i mean, but ov course you would have to inform your insurance. But you could probs do vtr conversion for little money.

    this guys furio is running 105bhp apparently and the mods he lists are, k&n induction and brether, torin inlet manifold and injectors, ultimate road cams, ecu mapped to run with the mods, voltage stabilizer, other misc engine mods
12. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

    #12 12th January 2007, 21:00

    no proof of it then?lol
13. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #13 12th January 2007, 21:46

    There also be an icelandic blue furio, think his name is something similar to "icelandicfurio" or something, his is cammed.
14. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #14 12th January 2007, 21:47

    Is an engine swap not an option? I'd look at the 1.6 8v engine .. it'd make a better starting point
    
    I think Piper make a cam for the 1.4 engine, if you want to persevere with it change the manifold as well, and they also respond well to head work.
15. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #15 12th January 2007, 22:44

    i think its good that people with the lower model saxo's are modding them to get reasonable amounts of power from them, as aposed to just doing it they easy way any sticking a VTR/S conversion in there!
16. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

    #16 12th January 2007, 22:49

    Would be good to see what gains can be had from a 1.4, but in my opinion I wouldnt spend alot of money on a 1.4 saxo to get it to the power of a vtr when I could buy a vtr with the same money and start from there.
17. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #17 12th January 2007, 23:07

    depends on project, theres a lad on ssc sticking a tbd vts lump in his westy. money wise easier to get a vts then start,
18. S34MER East Midlands Joined: Jun 2006 Derby Posts: 8305 Skoda Fabia VRS

    #18 12th January 2007, 23:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit depends on project, theres a lad on ssc sticking a tbd vts lump in his westy. money wise easier to get a vts then start,

    more possibilities of problems with a VTS than a 1.4 8v though
19. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

    #19 13th January 2007, 17:57

    you could try bend the accelerater pedel up towards the dash. so you can push it down more!!! he he
20. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

    #20 13th January 2007, 17:59

    on a serious note, i got cammed 1.4 keeps wi vtr's to about 100, i got cam cheap though. not really worth buyin new one and gettin it set up. far cheaper to put vtr enginein... and they look near enough identical
21. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #21 14th January 2007, 11:20

    if he has modded engine to 105 bhp -then if he drops a vgtr block under the mods he has done he will get a lot more power --its more cc,s-also cheapest way to go --just get it remapped --unichip after fitting 1.6 bottom end --maybe fit 1.6 injectors to start,after fitting 1.6 block with and see how it goes -then decide on what mapping it needs
22. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #22 14th January 2007, 11:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danr There also be an icelandic blue furio, think his name is something similar to "icelandicfurio" or something, his is cammed.

    That was my old name, but dont have that car now its Fast_saxo that has it now.