106 gti engine with saxo looms?

18th January 2007, 14:06

i have a gti engine but question is? does anyone know can i use the engine loom from a saxo vts to plug it to the 106 engine?

if not then does a 106gti engine loom plug to a vts car loom and work? (i got the single plug engine loom and i can get a single plug car loom) but was wondering if it was plug n play.

cheers fellas rep will be given for usful answers

18th January 2007, 14:26

yes it's possible to use the saxo vts loom on a 106 gti engine, but i'd try and get the saxo sensors to be on the safe side as i'm not 100% sure that they're the same.other alternative you have is to cut and shut the 106 loom into the saxo multi-plug which if you have both wiring diagrams isn't all that difficult, just time consuming.

18th January 2007, 14:40

well this is the game situation. theres a vts that is being broken.

i'd assume it'd be better to get the car loom, engine loom from the vts and stick it in my saxo with the gti engine. if not then i'll just use the saxo loom and the 106 engine loom and fire it up that way. just curious thats all. cheers sean.

18th January 2007, 14:43

whole load of hassle though rewiring the car side of things, if you're not confident with the cutting and shutting of the loom then an auto sparky will be able to do it no problem, in fact cutting the gti loom onto the saxo multi plug is probably the easiest of your options

18th January 2007, 14:49

okies, quick fire question. can i use the car loom from my furio, cut n shut it on the 106 engine loom and use vts clocks? and the milage of the gti engine will come up and all the sensors etc will work???

18th January 2007, 14:58

you wont have to touch the car side of the loom- what to do is this:- you see just to the left of the passenger side headlamp as you look into the engine bay, you'll see the plug for the engine loom ( your furio engine loom plug). leave it plugged in, unplug all the furio sensors, and cut the wiring from the plug, leaving a good length to work with. now you'll be left with the furio multi plug (still plugged in remember) and the cut wires coming from it. cut the plug off the gti engine loom and mate these wires to the furio loom wires. There are 2 ways of matching the wires- the furio loom may have little numbers printed on the wires, not sure about the gti loom, but if the gti loom does then just match the numbers and join the wires together. If not, use a haynes manual wiring diagrams to trace each wire on the gti loom, and use autodata to find out what each pin on the furio multi plug does, and match each wire. sounds a pain in the arse but it's simple, just time consuming.

18th January 2007, 15:01

cool cool and i can use vts clocks (digi version)? that all i'm worried bout as i'm a fussy bugger when i mod my saxo and want everything to work.

18th January 2007, 15:04

i have no idea regarding wiring vts clocks into a furio loom sorry, all the car looms may be the same i dont know lol

18th January 2007, 15:08

cheers for your help mate been a real help! i'll be phoning my nearest car sparky and throwing a load of questions at him lol. if your going to donny or FCS i'll show ya what car you helped out

18th January 2007, 20:14

saxo vts loom works. turns car over and works perfect. i use a vts loom on my gti conversion. gti loom wont work unless you cut the wires to match then with your wires that go back into your car.

VTS loom will mean u wont need to change ur dails or anything like that. it's plug and play as long as your ECU is unlocked and you have the correct TDB Crank sensor.

18th January 2007, 20:19

ill clear it up abit more.

What year is your saxo? Get a loom from the same year VTS as your saxo year. Plug this in. Furio will be 1 plub by battry. vts will be 2. lucky the secend plug does fk all

after youve pluged vts loom in to all your "current gti sensors" The Car will turn over and prime fuel! but wont spark. This is easy resolved. you can either unlock the ecu your self if you have the keys from the donar car. or send your ecu away. I had mine reporgramed so mine is still imobilsed. This is very expensive btw. After you have your ecu done. you will need a crank sensor from a VTS This is the only sensor that needs changing.

Your clocks will be fine and you wont need to change them to vts dails.

If you don't have a fuel return on your furio you can just block the pipe up. but it is probs best in the long run to put a return in. you Fuel Pressure will be fine also!

Hope this helps m8! gl

18th January 2007, 20:28

following Seans post the gti loom does have numbers on. they aint same coloure as the Saxo ones

here.

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30 Battery +
31 Battery -
Â54 Crankshaft position (CKP) sensor
Õ1 Data link connector (DLC)
À35 Engine control module (ECM)
Â24 Engine coolant temperature (ÅÑÒ) sensor
H63 Engine malfunction indicator lamp (MIL)
Y104 Evaporative emission (EVAP) canister purge valve
Ì12 Fuel pump
F Fuse
Â72 Heated oxygen sensor (HO2S)
Y99 Idle air control (IAC) valve
Ò1 Ignition coil
15 Ignition switch - ignition ON
À162 Immobilizer control module
S39 Inertia fuel shut-off (IFS) switch
Y3 Injector
À5 Instrument panel
A75 Instrumentation control module
B25 Intake air temperature (IAT) sensor
Â69 Knock sensor (KS)
B83 Manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor
A171 Relay module
P7 Tachometer
R10 Throttle body heater
Â147 Throttle position (TP) sensor
B33 Vehicle speed sensor (VSS)
P9 Vehicle speedometer

19th January 2007, 15:35

awesome guys. well there is a vts car loom that i can get but i didn't want the hassel to take my dash out etc, n strip my saxo out. but if needs be i reckon i'll do that.

19th January 2007, 16:52

if u use vts loom it will be plug and play. u wont have ne problems, your dails will be fine. just wont show the correct mileage

17th November 2010, 12:23

hi there i have a 01 single plug 1.4 vtr and bought a twin plug gti 16v engine and loom can i cut and shut the two and if so were will i get the wiring diagrams for the two looms