EGR Valve and Fitting Manifold

1. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #1 24th January 2007, 22:37

   Right, ive got an EGR valve, what do i do with that when i fit a manifold? Does it come off? also mk2 vts has a lamba sensor in the manifold, do i need to cover that up?
   
   and how easy is it to fit the manifold, is it unscrew and fit the new one?
2. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #2 24th January 2007, 22:42

   not sure about egr
   
   if yours has 2 lamba sensors you need a gmc sleeve for 1
   
   spray all maniold bolts with wd40
   
   remove 8 top bolts -13mm
   remove lower bolts what conect to the cat -13mm (some are bigger)
   remove gerbox mount -8mm allen key
   
   then put it all back together
   
   get all new gaskets to
   
   get the metal 1 for the manifold think there only a citroen job the metal ones
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 24th January 2007, 22:45

   egr you can run without, all it does is put hot air into the inlet on start up irc.
4. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #4 24th January 2007, 22:49

   does it just come out then mate? never looked into it too much
   
   paul u can come up at easter when i get it put on
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 24th January 2007, 22:50

   as far as im aware.
   
   ask engines on ssc as the knowlege is 10x better there.
   
   ive known of a lot of ppl to not run them when fitting btbs etc..
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 24th January 2007, 22:55

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Matt does it just come out then mate? never looked into it too much paul u can come up at easter when i get it put on

   like i said on msn if im free il pop up
7. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #7 24th January 2007, 22:56

   il have to bare that in mind then cheers ryan
8. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #8 24th January 2007, 23:02

   as said on MSN, but it may as well be for everyones info too + im on roll tonight ... The EGR's job is to take some of the Exhaust Gas and stuff it into the air intake... this has the effect of lowering the emissions through the exhaust.
   
   Take it off, in theory should see a slight gain in performance as there is slightly lower temp air going into the cylinders and increase in emissions.
9. stevenet15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 aylesbury buckinghamshire Posts: 4822 Astra Turbo, saxo vts, punto turbo

   #9 24th January 2007, 23:14

   i've took egr valves off other cars when fitting manifolds but not a vts as mines an early mk2 so didnt have it to remove. on the other cars i had to make a blanking plate to block the egr feed hole on the cylinder head, or you could also tap a thread into the hole and then use a bolt to blank it off
10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 24th January 2007, 23:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer as said on MSN, but it may as well be for everyones info too + im on roll tonight ... The EGR's job is to take some of the Exhaust Gas and stuff it into the air intake... this has the effect of lowering the emissions through the exhaust. Take it off, in theory should see a slight gain in performance as there is slightly lower temp air going into the cylinders and increase in emissions.

    id allready stated it just puts manifold gas into the intake
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 24th January 2007, 23:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85 id allready stated it just puts manifold gas into the intake

    
12. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #12 25th January 2007, 08:41

    You could always leave it on. Never bothered to remove mine as I love mother nature. No probs fitting a manifold otherwise.
13. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #13 25th January 2007, 08:44

    Im actually suprised my Smog monster doesnt have an EGR valve - unless its just hidden...
14. ClaireHall Established Member Joined: May 2009 West lothian Posts: 1314 Evo VIII FQ300 & 106 gti

    #14 16th August 2009, 16:50

    What happens if you dont remove the egr valve when you have fitted a 4-2-1 mani??
15. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #15 16th August 2009, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ClaireHall What happens if you dont remove the egr valve when you have fitted a 4-2-1 mani??

    Nothing - the EGR continues to do its thing.
16. ClaireHall Established Member Joined: May 2009 West lothian Posts: 1314 Evo VIII FQ300 & 106 gti

    #16 16th August 2009, 16:58

    Iv fitted my manifold today left the egr valve on. . .. And i just got told i should ave taked it off coz it will melt with the heat! Even tho my mani is heatwrapped!
    
    OH and anyother thing how much is a gear linkage the bottom one?? Theres light play in mines, I want it done asap! dont like hanging anything wrong with my car.
    
    Rough price
17. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #17 16th August 2009, 17:31

    Never heard of it melting before? The standard manifold does have a heatshield, but if your new one is heatwrapped I doubt you've got anything to worry about.
18. ClaireHall Established Member Joined: May 2009 West lothian Posts: 1314 Evo VIII FQ300 & 106 gti

    #18 16th August 2009, 18:12

    When you remove the egr valve wahat goes in place of the hole in the side of your engine?
    
    Obviously you cant just leave it
19. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #19 16th August 2009, 18:46

    You need a blanking plate - a lad on here sells them, or you could just make one yourself from a thin sheet of alu. If you're removing it, there's also a load of pipework and the pump itself in the passenger side wheel arch.
20. ClaireHall Established Member Joined: May 2009 West lothian Posts: 1314 Evo VIII FQ300 & 106 gti

    #20 16th August 2009, 19:22

    Did u remove yours?
21. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #21 16th August 2009, 20:02

    Standard manifold on mine mate. I'd just leave it on - more hassle taking it off tbh.
22. ClaireHall Established Member Joined: May 2009 West lothian Posts: 1314 Evo VIII FQ300 & 106 gti

    #22 16th August 2009, 20:09

    Whats the guys name who selling the blanking plates??
23. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #23 16th August 2009, 20:23

    To clarify, it's not an EGR valve, it simply pumps fresh air into the exhaust side of the head to aid with cold start emissions or some rubbish.
    
    Personaly I'd just leave it on. My car never seems to have idled as well in the first minute or so since removing it. Placebo effect perhaps, but for the sake of the extra 2Kg it weighs, may as well leave it in place.
24. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #24 16th August 2009, 20:37

    the 'EGR valve' has nothing to do with the manifold.
    
    and it wont be your gear linkage, it will be the pin where it attaches to 1 of the selectors on the g'box, you will need to knock the pin out, drill the hole bigger and fit a split pin.
25. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #25 16th August 2009, 20:41

    It is not an Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve. There is no recirculation of any sorts. It's simply a small pump with an air feed attached to it and some sort of diaphragm valve connecting it to the head
26. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #26 16th August 2009, 20:58

    thats why i put the ' ' , what is the real name then? writing out its description every time you take about it is a bit long.
    
    i just fitted a head form a single plug ecu car to mine, and junked all the shit.
27. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #27 16th August 2009, 21:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts thats why i put the ' ' , what is the real name then? writing out its description every time you take about it is a bit long. i just fitted a head form a single plug ecu car to mine, and junked all the shit.

    Haha yeah wasn't having a go or anything dude.
    
    Dunno what it's called, probably Emissions Assistance Valve or something. So are you gonna be going from a 3 plug to single plug ECU or just using a single plug head?
28. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #28 16th August 2009, 21:09

    my original head cracked, so i just put a head on from a single plug and binned the 'egr' shit.