Vtr performance with different gearbox

1. Chris_Mcj Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Cardiff Posts: 296 Volvo V70 2.5T 193BHP, Black Vauxhall Corsa (C) 1.

   #1 26th January 2007, 16:19

   Hi,
   Ive had a little look and couldn't find any information on this. Does anyone know or have a vtr with a shorter ratio gearbox in? Is the performance any better?
   0-100 times? 0-60 ? Can anyone take a guesstimate on this?
   Maybe one of the more knoledgable members, Campdavid, Sean, Scott?
   Which one out of all of them would be the best for 0-100? I'm thinking the rallye?
   
   Nice one
2. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #2 26th January 2007, 16:21

   I always remember soeone saying that a 1.1 box on a vtr gave it a quicker 0-60 because of closer ratios but that it spoiled top end...............
   
   (Correct me if im wrong)
3. Chris_Mcj Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Cardiff Posts: 296 Volvo V70 2.5T 193BHP, Black Vauxhall Corsa (C) 1.

   #3 26th January 2007, 16:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by BruceybabyVTR I always remember soeone saying that a 1.1 box on a vtr gave it a quicker 0-60 because of closer ratios but that it spoiled top end............... (Correct me if im wrong)

   Yer, Ive heard its quicker- but I really want to be sure before going ahead with changing the gearbox to a vts box (this is my plan anyway). If its not a noticeable gain in figures then i wont bother.
4. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #4 26th January 2007, 16:34

   Are VTS boxes different from VTR's??? Hopefully someone with a little more product knowledge will answer this.
   
   There is a guy on her who was a citroen tech, sure his name is chrisvts or sumit.............maybe he'll know
5. Chris_Mcj Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Cardiff Posts: 296 Volvo V70 2.5T 193BHP, Black Vauxhall Corsa (C) 1.

   #5 26th January 2007, 16:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by BruceybabyVTR Are VTS boxes different from VTR's??? Hopefully someone with a little more product knowledge will answer this. There is a guy on her who was a citroen tech, sure his name is chrisvts or sumit.............maybe he'll know

   Yeah the vts is a short ratio and is similar to the 1.1 gearbox and rallye )rallye being the shortest), But not nesseseraly meaning better performance as the VTR only produces 90 bhp.
   While the vtr gearbox is a long ratio and I think the 1.4 maybe long as-well- not sure.
6. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #6 26th January 2007, 16:47

   no idea on difference in performance figures as i dont think anyone has timed it back to back.
   
   1.1/vts box will give better acceleration due to shorter ratios but loose top end and cruising MPG.
   
   1.3 Rallye box smae thing really but shorter ratios again.
   
   Dont forget that the vts has a higher limiter as well to take advantage of the short ratios, vtr has lower limiter so you will have a lower top speed in each gear to
7. Chris_Mcj Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2005 Cardiff Posts: 296 Volvo V70 2.5T 193BHP, Black Vauxhall Corsa (C) 1.

   #7 26th January 2007, 16:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Scott no idea on difference in performance figures as i dont think anyone has timed it back to back. 1.1/vts box will give better acceleration due to shorter ratios but loose top end and cruising MPG. 1.3 Rallye box smae thing really but shorter ratios again. Dont forget that the vts has a higher limiter as well to take advantage of the short ratios, vtr has lower limiter so you will have a lower top speed in each gear to

   Cheers buddy, don't think I'll bother then. Need a mixture of good Mpg on the motorway + performance. I'll stick with what I got.
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 27th January 2007, 10:51

   rallyes have a higher rev limit aswell.
9. citroenaxgtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 swansea United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 895 citroen ax vtr

   #9 28th January 2007, 01:42

   pffft, get a 1.1 box. cheap and easy to get hold of, this will speed up your 0-60 times!.
   yeah you will loose top end but you wont need to do more than 110 WILL YOU?.
10. SAM33R Established Member Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2139 DIABLO RED 106 GTI E36 M3 EVO

    #10 28th January 2007, 02:32

    get a VTS box, its the same as a 1.1 but the final drive is longer so you wont lose top end