Front Suspension Legs and Brake lines

1. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #1 29th January 2007, 00:15

   Couple of quickies (I hope)
   
   Firstly does anyone know if theres a proper easy method to undo these metal collars on the front legs? They are supposed to unscrew but unfortunately they are seized
   
   
   
   
   Also does anyone know if Citroen stock these brake lines/cables and if so how much? Ive tried looking online but ive had no luck
   
   Theyre from the rear axle
   
   
2. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #2 29th January 2007, 00:18

   the collar ahs a proper removal tool however a large stilson (sp) wrench usually does the trick no bother.
   
   Not sure if citroen stock the lines
3. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #3 29th January 2007, 00:21

   i doubt citroen would stock them they would probley make them like most gargages do
   
   might be worth getting length of pipe then asking a garage to make that length and then you bend it to how it goes will be cheaper then citroen
4. BruceybabyVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Edinburgh Posts: 858 Saxo VTR MK2

   #4 29th January 2007, 00:22

   the lines could be fabricated yourself mate, You can buy a roll of copper brake pip from brown bros/partco and some male/female ends. While your there get a brake pip flaring tool, they cost a hundred quid but well worth the cash if u ever have to replace any more brake pipes.
   
   from the looks of it, a set of water pump pliers mite free that collar off ( a big set)
   
   Most manufacturers dont actually stock brake pipes, i know we dont, just bend a roll to match the old one.
   
   hope this helps
5. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #5 29th January 2007, 00:29

   Nice one, thanks for the quick replies gents. My main bother is the metal collar, i dont have anything myself that can remove them so ill take them to the local garage tomorrow.
   
   Brake lines/cables are all ok really, but ill look into it.
6. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

   #6 29th January 2007, 01:11

   THe metal collar can easily be removed using a set of stilsons.... or if youdont have them, stand on the strut and hammer a screwdriver into the little holes, to twist the cap. Dont hit it too hard as you will cut into the metal.
   
   It will only need a few cm of travel before you can remove the colalr by hand.
   
   As for the brake lines... Citroen will probably not have them in stock, but will get them in a day or two.
   
   I recently bought some front ones from citroen and also had some made at a local motor factors as Citroen had to order them (im impatient).
   
   The motor factor ones cost about £5 for the pair... the ones I got from Citroen cost only £7 for the pair and were bent in exactly the right places...
   
   The motor factor ones will just be given to you as a straight length of pipe with the tails on...
   
   Get to Citroen and get some ordered
7. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

   #7 29th January 2007, 01:15

   Magic...
8. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #8 29th January 2007, 10:39

   Thanks Simo I have tried using the screwdriver technique with a hammer but unfortunately it wouldnt budge, i put a fair bit of WD40 on and left it overnight, fingers crossed ti may work this morning.
9. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

   #9 29th January 2007, 18:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by willsy Thanks Simo I have tried using the screwdriver technique with a hammer but unfortunately it wouldnt budge, i put a fair bit of WD40 on and left it overnight, fingers crossed ti may work this morning.

   
   Use a bigger screwdriver and bigger hammer... failing that, get someone bigger to use said tools.
   
   You cant argue with physics
10. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #10 29th January 2007, 20:38

    lol
    
    i've had to take those damper caps off on old ax's and 106s and it took quite a few large blasts with the lump hammer to get them to come undone so i don't think screwdriver will do the job. surely someone you know has stilsons?
    
    i hate the way bilstein don't give you the correct tool for doing their dampers, i must have done up/undone at least 20 pairs of bilstein fronts
11. Simop Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Warrington Posts: 20561 Blue Saxo VTS Turbo/White Megane F1 R26

    #11 30th January 2007, 01:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexR lol i've had to take those damper caps off on old ax's and 106s and it took quite a few large blasts with the lump hammer to get them to come undone so i don't think screwdriver will do the job. surely someone you know has stilsons? i hate the way bilstein don't give you the correct tool for doing their dampers, i must have done up/undone at least 20 pairs of bilstein fronts

    Screwdriver/hammer should be fine for the job... Ive dont it on a few sets.
    
    Agreed about the Bilstein retaining nut. Pain in the arse having to tighten them every year or so!!
12. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #12 30th January 2007, 12:01

    Screwdriver and hammer still wouldnt work, i have now cracked the problem using something better and more favourable
    
    See conversion thread for pics