change of direction. ideas and help

1. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

   #1 31st January 2007, 21:01

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   just been taking my angel eyes of my saxo, and putting the original lights back on. and been having a chat with my cousin about what direction to take the car in terms of modifying! i came up with a plan for my vts which starts with the manifold and induction kit i am about to buy!! i am seriously concidering swaping my vts rims for some black vtr rims, to gain bhp and and speed!! i want a speed demond saxo, also concidering badging it as a vtr lol. the back seats are coming out on saturday to!! and all the sub and sound system!
   
   the car is also guna be lowered more if the vtr rims, maybe 60mm at the front and 50mm at the back!
   
   just want a rally slag saxo lol!! just some opinions and would anyone swap black vtr rims for my standard vts rims????
   
   cheers for the opinions guys!!
2. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #2 31st January 2007, 21:04

   wont see much diffrence just by swapping the rims and just taking the seats out
   
   not sure why you want to put vtr badges on it
   
   gmc manifold and enclosed filter is the best thing
3. brianS Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 adelaide Australia prev. maidenhead (England) Posts: 1866

   #3 31st January 2007, 21:04

   vtr and vts rims will be about the same weight with tyres on
4. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

   #4 31st January 2007, 21:05

   you gain bhp by swapping alloys?
   
   news to me, someones told you porkies
5. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

   #5 31st January 2007, 21:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by hesslevtr wont see much diffrence just by swapping the rims and just taking the seats out not sure why you want to put vtr badges on it gmc manifold and enclosed filter is the best thing

   im starting to like vtr rims over vts rims though. in black they look mint on slammed saxos, and vtr rims are more rally look, vts is a sort of show rim
6. brianS Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 adelaide Australia prev. maidenhead (England) Posts: 1866

   #6 31st January 2007, 21:06

   also if you want a rally / track slag lowering it that much will just ruin the handling
7. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

   #7 31st January 2007, 21:06

   not really about the gain, just more rally/race look
8. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #8 31st January 2007, 21:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jaybiss you gain bhp by swapping alloys? news to me, someones told you porkies

   smaller wheels faster aceleration but not in this case
   
   but vtr and vts will more or less be same diamter and weight
9. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

   #9 31st January 2007, 21:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by brianS also if you want a rally / track slag lowering it that much will just ruin the handling

   id just lower it more coz the rims are smaller pal
10. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #10 31st January 2007, 21:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover not really about the gain, just more rally/race look

    steelies or proper lightweight alloys
    
    speedlines rock
11. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #11 31st January 2007, 21:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover id just lower it more coz the rims are smaller pal

    the lower you go the shiter the handling
12. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #12 31st January 2007, 21:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr steelies or proper lightweight alloys speedlines rock

    i fancy speedlines, just expensive arnt they?
13. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #13 31st January 2007, 21:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr the lower you go the shiter the handling

    
    thats whats bugging me lol
14. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #14 31st January 2007, 21:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover i fancy speedlines, just expensive arnt they?

    quite expensive but you get what you pay for
15. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #15 31st January 2007, 21:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover thats whats bugging me lol

    whats bugging you
16. brianS Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 adelaide Australia prev. maidenhead (England) Posts: 1866

    #16 31st January 2007, 21:10

    hence my post.
    
    speedlines with tyres about £550-£600
17. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #17 31st January 2007, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr whats bugging you

    the lower the worse the handling
18. brianS Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 adelaide Australia prev. maidenhead (England) Posts: 1866

    #18 31st January 2007, 21:11

    30mm on faulkner springs with matched dampers would be a good choice.
19. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #19 31st January 2007, 21:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover the lower the worse the handling

    yeah i knowso if you want it to be a track/ralleye slag why go that low
20. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #20 31st January 2007, 21:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr yeah i knowso if you want it to be a track/ralleye slag why go that low

    i know mate, dunno what to do
21. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

    #21 31st January 2007, 21:14

    What about 106 rallye wheels?
22. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #22 31st January 2007, 21:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kateandjohn What about 106 rallye wheels?

    
    i wouldnt mind 205 alloys
23. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

    #23 31st January 2007, 21:15

    You won gain anything at all from having vtr rims on it mate lol, you want some lightweight speedlines as the vtr/vts rims are heavy as fook. I wouldnt personally badge it as a vtr unless it was a vtr converted.
24. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

    #24 31st January 2007, 21:15

    1.6 or 1.9's ?
25. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

    #25 31st January 2007, 21:16

    would have to be 1.9's
26. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #26 31st January 2007, 21:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtslover i know mate, dunno what to do

    well i know what id rather have
    
    decent suspension i really wish i hadnt gone 50mm now but upto you
27. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #27 31st January 2007, 21:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kateandjohn 1.6 or 1.9's ?

    no idea lol
28. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #28 31st January 2007, 21:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr well i know what id rather have decent suspension i really wish i hadnt gone 50mm now but upto you

    its sound advise pal, cheers!!!!!
29. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

    #29 31st January 2007, 21:22

    posi blue saxo's need white wheels and white roll cages!!!!
30. kateandjohn Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2006 cheshire Posts: 379 03 vts

    #30 31st January 2007, 21:24

    the 1.6 one's are 14 inch pepperpot looking and the 1.9 one's are 15 inch nice looking! if you get what i mean?
31. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

    #31 31st January 2007, 21:29

    i really like a make of wheel called "compomotive mo" i think... really nice rim..
32. saxpot L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Stalybridge Posts: 81 Not got one yet :( Getting a

    #32 31st January 2007, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brianS 30mm on faulkner springs with matched dampers would be a good choice.

    I reckon you should go along with brianS's advice, save up and get some speedline's and drop it 30mm onto these and it'll still look sweet as, coz aswell as the handling getting shitter the lower you go, IMO some cars also look daft once you drop it lower than a certain height
    
    Just thought i'd say
33. Mikey Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 Blackburn Posts: 12035 GTI/VTS/VXR/S-line

    #33 31st January 2007, 22:14

    i was just thinking of keeping it simple though!!! like no expensive rims! i love speedlines but 600 is a lot of cash. compomotives are smart rims!! my mate had them on a valver nova
34. Perky Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 preston Posts: 742 car....... ha, ha 151,000 pound mortgage

    #34 31st January 2007, 22:16

    wot about nimrods... pug 206 gti wheels. i like them or dont no if its possible. but i wanted clio 182 trophy wheels for ages in athracite... they a the biz