upgrading brakes...

1. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

   #1 5th February 2007, 11:34

   306 gti 6 brakes i know as straight swaps...
   
   what about 406 v6 brakes they not as good?
   
   
   
   how about 406 callipers and 206 gti 180 discs?
2. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #2 5th February 2007, 11:36

   406 are 4 pots arent they? they go on sure williams has them on
   
   i would of thought the discs would be the same size, caliper being different as 406 is 4 pot
3. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

   #3 5th February 2007, 11:39

   so would the 406 fit directly?
   and would they be as good as the 306 gti 6 brakes?
4. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #4 5th February 2007, 11:41

   Just think u need some sort of spacers for them?
   Not 100% on this.
5. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

   #5 5th February 2007, 11:47

   the 406 Brembo will work with 206 GTI 180 disks, though they are massive and generally need spacing out under 15s
6. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #6 5th February 2007, 11:49

   GTi6 brakes are very common and seem to work well.
   Personal opinion here but if I was to get 4pots I would just get a proper
   Saxo set.
7. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

   #7 5th February 2007, 11:55

   but when you can get the 406 for 100ish and im guessing the saxo 4 pots would be like 600?
8. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

   #8 5th February 2007, 11:57

   Yea you will obviously pay more for the brand new saxo ones.
   
   End of the day if your brakes screw up what are you goin to do lol?
   I like peace of mind.
9. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

   #9 5th February 2007, 12:01

   very true, i think id best off try find some 306 gti 6 ones, as all ive heard is pos feedback
10. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #10 5th February 2007, 12:06

    No 4 pot caliper is designed specifically for the saxo, in fact the standard VT calipers were on the AX and 306 long before the Saxo was thought up. The Brembo on the 406 coupe was never desgned for the 406, its been on the Fiat Coupe for years. My Hi Specs first appeared in a previous life made by Lucas on the Volvo 240 (top flight breading there then!)
    
    Brembo 4 pots from the 406 will be fine on the Saxo, depending on what wheels you have
11. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

    #11 5th February 2007, 12:59

    standard vts wheels...
    
    how much will spacers cost if i need them..
    and will they be as good as the 306 brakes?
    
    
    i have abs.. will it still work?
12. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #12 5th February 2007, 13:02

    ABS will still work
    
    Spacers - £20, if they'll fit at all
    
    Lighter than GTI-6 brakes and they are a 4 piston design, not a single piston so should be a bit sharper
13. jas16v Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Mid Wales Posts: 443 saxo vts mk2

    #13 5th February 2007, 13:08

    if they fit at all? meaning that there's a chance they wont fit yeah?
    I may have to try do some reserach
14. CampDavid Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Bedford Posts: 7457 Saxo VTS Peugeot 306 GTI-6 Astra SRI

    #14 5th February 2007, 13:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jas16v if they fit at all? meaning that there's a chance they wont fit yeah? I may have to try do some reserach

    Yep.
    
    Hi Specs need 3mm shims to clear Brembos, I'd imagine you could get away with the same, but I can't promise.